RE: God has all attributes including evil iniquity.
February 23, 2012 at 8:14 am
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2012 at 8:21 am by NoMoreFaith.)
(February 23, 2012 at 8:03 am)chipan Wrote: Organic matter forming inorganic matter is not at question. The question is if they can do so by them selves or if they need someone to construct it. There is no process observed that allows organic matter to be generated on its own out of inorganic matter. Therefore it must require faith to believe.
You didn't address the logic. We exist. We are organic. Inorganic matter predates organic matter.
Therefore Inorganic matter was used to create organic matter. No faith.
So what is it we have faith in? We haven't proposed a theory of abiogenesis, but some hypotheses. Your God can be classed as a hypotheses but that requires equal proof.
You demand proof of an alternative, I demand proof of your alternative.
Sidestepping that it requires faith is logically inconsistent, unless you are claiming we do not exist.
What are you claiming we have faith in then? We have faith that abiogenesis occurred? I have already disproven that is a logical fallacy.
What you can only be saying is "We must have faith God did not do it", I also have "faith that the Genie of the Lamp did not do it". So what exactly is your point?
EDIT: Interesting link LastPoet, I wasn't personally aware of that experiment myself, the God hypotheses becomes even more remote with that in mind. So there is at least one method of abiogenesis, but I imagine it needs a lot more work.
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The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
