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Poll: Should weed be legal like cigarettes and alcohol?
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Weed
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RE: Weed
Pot is not 'harmless' for people with mental instabilities.

Then again, alcohol is not harmless for people with the same.

Pot withdrawal consists of being cranky and out of it.

Alcohol withdrawal consists of headaches to heart arrythmia and possible death in severe cases.

We can see so far for usage cases, pot can be seen/approached in the same light.


Now let's get to the real hard stuff -- addiction, which comes in emotional and physical forms.

Heavy pot use incurs emotional addiction and that's about it. Other than feeling extremely bored and sleepless for a few days, most heavy smokers can quit.

Heavy alcohol use incurs both emotional in both short and long term, with physical addiction in heavy users. Heavy drinkers can die quitting cold turkey. They'll also feel bored, sleepless, agitated and persecuted, with actual pain corresponding to the degree of the addiction.

So far, we see there is little in "red flags" in examining who shouldn't use it, withdrawal from heavy usage, addiction.

To contrast on addiction, let's look at heroin.

Heroin 'highs' dramatically drop in intensity per unit amount for users, starting from the first hit. Heroin is notable for building cross tolerance with other opiates, which prevents heavy users from receiving effective pain management in most surgical procedures (doctors actually prevent abusers from getting medicine in some cases or replace the drug with something barely usable, like acetaminophen).

Users of heroin are documented to descend into a spiral of usage, greatly increasing amounts of the drug to get the high they need.

Heroin addiction is physical and emotional, with withdrawal of opiate withdrawal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_withdrawal). Heroin, like other opiates, changes the regulation of the endogenous opioid receptor system to crave the next dose upon attaining euphoria (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11264674).

From a cursory look at heroin, weed and alcohol and you can clearly see which one is clearly detrimental for the user, one that is not really detrimental (caffeine withdrawal is widely reputed to be worse than pot withdrawal), and one that is accepted, legal and so socially tolerated that drunk driving is not just a significant cause of death, but one of the top ones.

So, we're left with a quandary -- we know pot entails less harm, risk than alcohol yet alcohol is legal, yet it is illegal.

Hope I illustrated the world of drugs to you.
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Messages In This Thread
Weed - by Napoléon - February 24, 2012 at 11:27 am
RE: Weed - by Nine - February 24, 2012 at 11:30 am
RE: Weed - by Faith No More - February 24, 2012 at 11:30 am
RE: Weed - by Napoléon - February 24, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: Weed - by thesummerqueen - February 24, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: Weed - by Napoléon - February 24, 2012 at 11:33 am
RE: Weed - by Violet - February 24, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Weed - by Tiberius - February 24, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Weed - by Napoléon - February 24, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Weed - by Violet - February 24, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Weed - by thesummerqueen - February 24, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: Weed - by Tiberius - February 24, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: Weed - by thesummerqueen - February 24, 2012 at 12:23 pm
RE: Weed - by Tiberius - February 24, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Weed - by Napoléon - February 24, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Weed - by Tiberius - February 24, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: Weed - by Napoléon - February 24, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Weed - by Chuff - February 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Weed - by Nine - February 24, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Weed - by Faith No More - February 24, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: Weed - by Chuff - February 24, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: Weed - by Nine - February 24, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: Weed - by Violet - February 24, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Weed - by Nine - February 24, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Weed - by Chuff - February 24, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: Weed - by Nine - February 24, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RE: Weed - by Doubting Thomas - February 24, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: Weed - by downbeatplumb - February 24, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Weed - by Erinome - February 24, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: Weed - by MrSkeptic - February 24, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: Weed - by Autumnlicious - February 24, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Weed - by Napoléon - February 25, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Weed - by MrSkeptic - February 24, 2012 at 10:12 pm
RE: Weed - by Tiberius - February 25, 2012 at 4:38 am
RE: Weed - by Jackalope - February 25, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Weed - by Faith No More - February 25, 2012 at 8:42 am
RE: Weed - by MrSkeptic - February 25, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: Weed - by thebigfudge - February 25, 2012 at 8:43 am
RE: Weed - by Faith No More - February 25, 2012 at 8:47 am
RE: Weed - by thebigfudge - February 25, 2012 at 8:59 am
RE: Weed - by Erinome - February 25, 2012 at 9:19 am
RE: Weed - by Faith No More - February 25, 2012 at 9:01 am
RE: Weed - by thesummerqueen - February 25, 2012 at 9:17 am
RE: Weed - by thebigfudge - February 25, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Weed - by thesummerqueen - February 25, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: Weed - by Erinome - February 25, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Weed - by Tiberius - February 25, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Weed - by Erinome - February 25, 2012 at 9:49 am
RE: Weed - by thesummerqueen - February 25, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: Weed - by Napoléon - February 25, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Weed - by The Grand Nudger - February 25, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Weed - by MrSkeptic - February 25, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Weed - by Erinome - February 25, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: Weed - by MrSkeptic - February 25, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Weed - by leo-rcc - February 25, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Weed - by Faith No More - February 25, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Weed - by Autumnlicious - February 25, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Weed - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2012 at 5:02 am
RE: Weed - by Napoléon - February 26, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: Weed - by Nine - February 26, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: Weed - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 11:31 am
RE: Weed - by thesummerqueen - February 26, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: Weed - by Rhizomorph13 - February 26, 2012 at 5:00 pm
RE: Weed - by The Grand Nudger - February 26, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: Weed - by Tiberius - February 26, 2012 at 6:35 pm



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