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Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right
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RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right
(February 26, 2012 at 12:16 am)Shell B Wrote: Nice. She is actually a medical professional. She does not vaccinate them because the vaccine is always for the previous year's virus and provides only minimal protection. It is only advised for the very young or very old of which her children are neither.

Wrong. Influenza species vary by time, but the collection of proteins on the capsid usually contain a common element. In other words, 'minimally effective' versus nothing. Yep, that's a great weighing of it.



(February 26, 2012 at 12:16 am)Shell B Wrote: You just flew off the fucking handle for absolutely no reason. There are flu pandemics. The reason people fucking died of the flu was old age, young age, compromised immune systems or pneumonia, which is now treatable. The very fucking reason she says she does not vaccinate them is because it is so fucking mutable. Durf.

No you dumbass, why don't you fucking read the pages? Hell, I'll fucking give you the Navy's write up:
http://www.history.navy.mil/library/onli...a_main.htm

The victims of purple death in 1918 were not just 'old age, young age, compromised immune systems or pneumonia'. It included healthy adults. Adults who no doubt experienced their regional flu variant for years before hand.

But that's immaterial to someone who can't seem to join the relationship between FLU and FLU PANDEMIC.

Hint, you need one to have the other. Derp yourself.

(February 26, 2012 at 12:16 am)Shell B Wrote: No she isn't. She just explained how vaccines work. She said people do not realize that a lot of vaccines are live viruses and our bodies have to create antibodies to fight it off. She wasn't saying your body does this without vaccines, which it actually can and does in many cases.

'A lot'? Really? Really fucking really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_attenu...za_vaccine

Let's look at that for example. LAIV (the OMGWTFBBQ-ITS-A-LIVE-VIRUS) is given intranasally, while the killed inactive form (old style) are administered through a intramuscular shot.

Let's look at the CDC for some statistics ( http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/flus...uspray.htm ).
" however, the intranasal influenza vaccine was not approved for use until June 2003..."

Oops. Guess Melanbee is either stuck in the moment or presenting false information. Clearly attenuated virus vaccine production for one of the worlds most commonest viruses (of which inactivated virus vaccine production was well in place decades before).

Let's look at actual usage of LAIV versus LAIV+Inactivated:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/flus...bles.pdf#1

Table 2 clearly shows that using LAIV alone is a rarity, and instead is used more often in conjunction with inactivated influenza.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Nine - February 25, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Phil - February 27, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Autumnlicious - February 26, 2012 at 12:52 am
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Phil - February 27, 2012 at 11:25 am
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Phil - February 27, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Phil - February 27, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Phil - February 27, 2012 at 12:24 pm
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Nine - February 27, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Phil - February 27, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Phil - February 27, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Nine - February 27, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Phil - February 27, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: Abstaining from Vaccination should NOT be a right - by Nine - February 27, 2012 at 12:40 pm

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