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RE: i want to thank every atheist
February 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm
(February 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm)NoMoreFaith Wrote: Well, I have to confess I don't have 2 hours to spend on tired old arguments so I took the abbreviated version.

But as to the cosmological argument, and the assertion that everything has a creator. Your 'rustic' logic has a problem that every atheist can recite more or less in their sleep.

If everything has a creator, then what created the creator?
If the creator requires no cause, then you must admit your basic premise that everything has a creator is flawed.
If your basic premise is flawed, then your whole argument is flawed, not everything requires a creator.
Which means the universe does not necessitate a creator.
Ah, but WHAT made the universe then.. well, we don't know for certain.. which brings me to point 2.

Even if we assume a supernatural entity created the world, then what evidence do you have that makes Allah more preeminent a creator than Ra, Tepeu and Gucumatz, Jehovah (arguably the same guy), or Odin.

Answer the counterarguments and you may have a real discussion. Stop hiding behind videos which is one way only, and enter a real discussion on the matter. Prove me wrong, and be brave enough to defend your arguments.

The KCA is a fallacious, illogical and nonsensical argument. I am still waiting to hear the cause of beta decay. Any takers?
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i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - February 29, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 2:07 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by 5thHorseman - February 29, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Doubting Thomas - February 29, 2012 at 2:23 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Welsh cake - February 29, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by NoMoreFaith - February 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Phil - February 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by NoMoreFaith - February 29, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Napoléon - February 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Napoléon - March 1, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Doubting Thomas - February 29, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - February 29, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Aegrus - February 29, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Shell B - February 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Faith No More - February 29, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Minimalist - February 29, 2012 at 8:45 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 9:01 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Shell B - February 29, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Forsaken - February 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Epimethean - February 29, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:55 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Phil - March 1, 2012 at 9:38 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - February 29, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - March 1, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - March 1, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by downbeatplumb - March 1, 2012 at 5:30 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by 5thHorseman - March 1, 2012 at 8:06 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Phil - March 1, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - March 1, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cinjin - March 1, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 2:23 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Epimethean - March 1, 2012 at 12:43 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 1:00 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 1:03 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Napoléon - March 1, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 1:06 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Epimethean - March 1, 2012 at 1:12 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 2:27 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 3:47 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 4:04 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Epimethean - March 1, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - March 1, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Faith No More - March 1, 2012 at 10:23 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by 5thHorseman - March 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by NoMoreFaith - March 1, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - March 1, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by znk666 - March 2, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - March 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm

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