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i want to thank every atheist
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RE: i want to thank every atheist
February 29, 2012 at 11:30 pm
(February 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm)Phil Wrote:
(February 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm)NoMoreFaith Wrote: Well, I have to confess I don't have 2 hours to spend on tired old arguments so I took the abbreviated version.

But as to the cosmological argument, and the assertion that everything has a creator. Your 'rustic' logic has a problem that every atheist can recite more or less in their sleep.

If everything has a creator, then what created the creator?
If the creator requires no cause, then you must admit your basic premise that everything has a creator is flawed.
If your basic premise is flawed, then your whole argument is flawed, not everything requires a creator.
Which means the universe does not necessitate a creator.
Ah, but WHAT made the universe then.. well, we don't know for certain.. which brings me to point 2.

Even if we assume a supernatural entity created the world, then what evidence do you have that makes Allah more preeminent a creator than Ra, Tepeu and Gucumatz, Jehovah (arguably the same guy), or Odin.

Answer the counterarguments and you may have a real discussion. Stop hiding behind videos which is one way only, and enter a real discussion on the matter. Prove me wrong, and be brave enough to defend your arguments.

The KCA is a fallacious, illogical and nonsensical argument. I am still waiting to hear the cause of beta decay. Any takers?
i would like to cull a paragraph from my 2 hr video
my dear if you argue that God created universe but who
created God .good question... but you like to take
a never ending hunt of "who created who. "
this journey will never end until you logically stop
at one point which will serve as "the ultimate First '
or " Ya Awwalo "
the Quranic word "Awwalo " means the very first or beginner.this is the attribute of ALLAH described in
holy Quran. which say that ALLAH is the First before anything or anyone .It means ALLAH created all
things but he was not created by someone

ALLAH is the Beginning means and the fact of His being the End means there is no one after Him. We cannot establish any limits for Him to be the First or the Last as ALLAH is beyond any limits. He is always and shall always be.
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i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 8:37 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - February 29, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 2:07 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by 5thHorseman - February 29, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Doubting Thomas - February 29, 2012 at 2:23 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Welsh cake - February 29, 2012 at 3:29 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - February 29, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by NoMoreFaith - February 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Phil - February 29, 2012 at 10:00 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:30 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by NoMoreFaith - February 29, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Napoléon - February 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Napoléon - March 1, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Doubting Thomas - February 29, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - February 29, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Aegrus - February 29, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 5:12 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Shell B - February 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Faith No More - February 29, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Minimalist - February 29, 2012 at 8:45 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 9:01 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Shell B - February 29, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Forsaken - February 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - February 29, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Epimethean - February 29, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 12:06 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:55 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - February 29, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Phil - March 1, 2012 at 9:38 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - February 29, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - March 1, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - March 1, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by downbeatplumb - March 1, 2012 at 5:30 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by 5thHorseman - March 1, 2012 at 8:06 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Phil - March 1, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - March 1, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cinjin - March 1, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 2:23 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Epimethean - March 1, 2012 at 12:43 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 12:45 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 1:00 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by kuki - March 1, 2012 at 1:03 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Napoléon - March 1, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 1:06 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Epimethean - March 1, 2012 at 1:12 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 2:27 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 3:47 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by KichigaiNeko - March 1, 2012 at 4:04 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Epimethean - March 1, 2012 at 9:37 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by The Grand Nudger - March 1, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by reverendjeremiah - March 1, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by padraic - March 1, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Faith No More - March 1, 2012 at 10:23 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by 5thHorseman - March 1, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by NoMoreFaith - March 1, 2012 at 3:59 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Nine - March 1, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Erinome - March 1, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by znk666 - March 2, 2012 at 6:26 am
RE: i want to thank every atheist - by Cyberman - March 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm

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