(August 5, 2009 at 6:47 pm)Jon Paul Wrote:(August 5, 2009 at 6:21 pm)amw79 Wrote: Utter nonsense. I fully understand your argument, and have tried to point out to you that's its based on a woeful premise.What you have pointed to doesn't address my argument, so I can only conclude then that you don't understand my argument. I could also conclude that you are intentionally diverting attention from what I am saying and setting up a false strawman or a non sequitur. But it makes no sense to speculate to such lengths.
(August 5, 2009 at 6:21 pm)amw79 Wrote: You're continually repeating youself, and to quote you "telling me what I already know"You don't understand the transcendental argument, so I'm not telling you what you already know.
Luckily, there are other atheists who do understand it, and have tried to refute it by actually addressing it. The attempts I have seen have failed. But you have not even attempted, because you have not understood it.
Don't fucking patronise me. I understand your transcendent argument, and dismiss it as unfounded. Your problem is that you're defining "subjective" to equal 'meaningless' and 'merely', and therefore claiming that any subjective judgements about morality or logic is invalid. I think this is nonsense, and therefore since your argument is based on god being the source of objective truth, have asked you on several occasions to provide evidence for this premise. Which you still haven't, and can't do.