(March 16, 2012 at 11:57 am)Rhythm Wrote: @ Carn I initially responded to you point by point and posted it, but then I realized that your argument doesn't deserve it, so I went back and cut it down to the following-Maybe one or two replies with verifiable facts will not be too much trouble?
"The bible says alot of things, and if I sift through this massive laundry list of claims, and interpret them just so, and then attach very generous dates to those claims, and then interpret history and current events in a way that might generally be said to fit those claims, and then ignore the specifics, and then igore anytime these claims turn out to be horrendously incorrect, and then claim that these things are facts by sheer weight of all of the fuzziness above....and as long as I'm not forced to even begin to demonstrate any mechanism by which all of this can be achieved beyond the blisteringly obvious contortions I've gone through to get to this point...prophecy exists"
I remain unconvinced. Perhaps you should try harder? IOW, less claiming more demonstrating. You've attached dates as though they are established facts, well, not unless you can actually establish them, that will be the stumbling block of most of your claims to prophesy. You made claims to fulfillment without establishing that anything at all has been fulfilled, I shouldn't even have to point out that you're going to have to work harder on that one. Your presentation lacks any demonstration of a mechanism by which any of this is even possible (and by "any of this", I mean simple fortune telling, because that's what we're talking about, even though you insist on giving it a grandiose name to separate it from that which your own scriptures otherwise condemn), and that's the truly damning bit. Perhaps you've simply accepted that such a mechanism exists a priori, but that doesn't really touch on anything except your own gullibility and willingness to believe.
(If all you have is "prove me wrong" you're being entirely disingenuous, you actually mean "prove us wrong again, and again, and again" and this is a bare expression of shifting the burden of proof, you're not even trying to hide it....I guess you hope to wear down the enemies of christ through repetition? Well, mission accomplished, I'm entirely uninterested.)
