[quote='whateverist' pid='257119' dateline='1332139766']
[quote]It's really that simple? [/quote]
Yep.
[quote]So if I made the pronouncement that I was the "alpha and the omega" and wrote it down in a book like the bible, then I too could be outside of time and eternal?[/quote]It depends on when you wrote the book.
[quote] Apparently that is all it takes for your God to convince you that it's so. How do you know it's true?[/quote]Because in that book a great number of promises were given to the believer a very long time ago. The full fillment of those promises points to the truth.
[quote]He or his designated scribes say so. Well okey dokey then. Oh, wait a minute. I don't happen to believe everything in the bible is true, inspired, infallible or much of anything else. [/quote]What you personally believe is irrelevant to your original Question. Why? Because you asked Who made God? The question you ask acknowledges the existence of God for the intended purpose of the exploration of this question. My answer does not force belief outside of the parameters of the frame work of your original question. So in short, if Belief in God is such a foreign concept to you that you can not except His existence with in the parameters of your own question, Then you should not have asked the question to begin with.
[quote]So I guess I'll need more evidence. What reason do you have to think there is any creature whatsoever outside of time? Real evidence?[/quote]Can you give an example of what "real evidence" looks like outside of time? Perhaps then I might be able to provide something for you.
[quote]It's really that simple? [/quote]
Yep.
[quote]So if I made the pronouncement that I was the "alpha and the omega" and wrote it down in a book like the bible, then I too could be outside of time and eternal?[/quote]It depends on when you wrote the book.
[quote] Apparently that is all it takes for your God to convince you that it's so. How do you know it's true?[/quote]Because in that book a great number of promises were given to the believer a very long time ago. The full fillment of those promises points to the truth.
[quote]He or his designated scribes say so. Well okey dokey then. Oh, wait a minute. I don't happen to believe everything in the bible is true, inspired, infallible or much of anything else. [/quote]What you personally believe is irrelevant to your original Question. Why? Because you asked Who made God? The question you ask acknowledges the existence of God for the intended purpose of the exploration of this question. My answer does not force belief outside of the parameters of the frame work of your original question. So in short, if Belief in God is such a foreign concept to you that you can not except His existence with in the parameters of your own question, Then you should not have asked the question to begin with.
[quote]So I guess I'll need more evidence. What reason do you have to think there is any creature whatsoever outside of time? Real evidence?[/quote]Can you give an example of what "real evidence" looks like outside of time? Perhaps then I might be able to provide something for you.
