RE: Post number 1
March 19, 2012 at 7:18 pm
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2012 at 7:25 pm by Drich.)
(March 19, 2012 at 4:03 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Do you not realize how arrogant and condescending these statements are? Anyone who isn't a Christian anymore wasn't really a Christian, but you, you are definitely the real deal. You know nothing of anyone's background beyond the fact that they used to be Christians and the only thing you can say is 'you weren't doing it right.'
My comment condescending or not reflects the words of Christ on the matter. We all need to understand "Christianity" is not a series of ritualistic behaviors, that forces God into allowing someone into Heaven. That is why the Idea of a death bed confession is foolishness. Don't get me wrong there are biblical examples of those who confess on their death "Bed" and make it to Heaven, but Christ also is quick to point out that they only make it in like one escaping from a fire; with little more than the cloths on their back. Not an Ideal way to spend eternity.
Quote:Weren't you the one saying something about dignity and respect? Where is the respect in your judgmental assumptions?I don't believe i mentioned anything about dignity or respect, however i have shown it in my efforts, thus far and will make a great effort to continue to do so. That said, What you label as Dignity and your understanding of respect will never take precedence sound biblically based teaching.
"Peer pressure" and the expectation for me to "fall in" will never be a consideration of anything I speak or write on.
I offer clarity and understanding, not pink bows and Lolly pops. With clarity and understanding will come conflict, and an opportunity for resolution. What often stands between conflict and resolution is Pride. One will not ever be able to offer a conflicting view point without hurting dignity/respect, if pride is a factor. IF Pride is indeed an issue for you then know it is not up to me to resolve it for you. i can offer tools to help you resolve matters of pride, but ultimately all of the heavy lifting will be done by you. Until then know that just because a scriptural teaching is an affront your personal pride, does not mean what is being said is shaped or aimed at attacking the unbelievers dignity nor is it an intentional effort to disrespect anyone. It is simply a relevant view point to the conversation we are having.
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Passages like Mt7 are apart of the scriptural teachings I am here to pass along. This teaching says (By the words of Christ Himself) Not everyone that claims to be a Christian is indeed a Christian. Then He goes on to a List of items that only the elite could perform even in His day. Even then the "miracles" were not a true indication of the persons Christianity.He finishes the teach by telling us what is the key to Christianity.
(March 19, 2012 at 4:26 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Can we demonstrate any object that is "outside of linear time"? Nope. Is there any reason to believe that anything could exist outside of linear time? Not really? Does demonstrating such objects outside of linear time help the atheist argument? Nope.
Why are you wanting proof of this? (I can't be arsed to read your previous page full of waffle)
My point exactly. If you do not know what something outside of linear time would look like or be, then how could you identify it if i provided proof for God's existence outside of our understanding of time?
If you yourself do not know what to look for, and are freely willing to admit this, then again how will you know that what i provide as "proof" will not be what you are looking for? So then why ask for proof if you could not recognize it, even if He were in the room with you?
