RE: Evolution
March 21, 2012 at 8:29 pm
(This post was last modified: March 21, 2012 at 8:31 pm by NoMoreFaith.)
(March 21, 2012 at 8:15 pm)Drich Wrote: Replace the words "Bible" and "God" with Theory, and the same rehearsed arguments all of you seem to be sharing. If anything this points to a hive mind mentality on your part. So truthfully no matter what is believed how does this statement not apply in some form or fashion to everyone?
Nobody is making extraordinary unsubstantiated claims hence the need for extraordinary evidence.
If you think the arguments are shared, its because you have not refuted one thing.
I do it with my 7 year old as well, if he's trying to hide something, you keep asking.
Its nice that you think you're special. You have credit for an original take on things. However, the fact that it is original should tell you something about how well regarded it is (EDIT: I should mention, that doesn't make it weaker than any other apologetic).
Since you aren't going to defend your hypothesis, let's return to the original question since your eden posture fails to convince.
You start from a premise that Evolution does not cancel out Creationism, and you need to realise this is not necessarily the position many of us take. Evolution just is, you may as well fit the bible around gravity. If the facts point towards something, we can accept it as the best theory of the moment. Is evolution through natural selection a definite answer? Who knows, but what seems evident is that it merely will be refined, but unlikely to be replaced.
Its fundamentalist literal christians who see it as a threat to their views, whereby you have taken a middle road. I can respect that, but I'm sure you can understand why nobody takes it very seriously. After all, we don't even take christians who call it allegory all together seriously either.
But to simply answer the original question;
Why do we think Evolution cancels out Creationism? We don't. We will defend it against absurdity, and promote education on the matter, however, the cute little mythologies of the world bear little relation to scientific fact. It wasn't proposed to disprove anything, simply explain why we have such diversity of species (in terms of natural selection).
We see a lot of silly people, with unsubstantiated ideas, but an organic cell doesn't care what you believe.. it just is.
So be it with science, and theories of evolution, whether definitely true or not, you simply look at the evidence and see where it leads you.
Absolute faith, well, it can guide and comfort many people who are lost, but like a sat nav, its probably safe to be absolutely sure that bridge actually exists before you put all your faith in it.
Self-authenticating private evidence is useless, because it is indistinguishable from the illusion of it. ― Kel, Kelosophy Blog
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
