Evolution

[Drich]

If you think the arguments are shared, its because you have not refuted one thing.

What is there to refute? I understand the position you all bring to the table. And appearently you all do not understand mine, Because you would also see there is nothing to refute.

Since you aren't going to defend your hypothesis, let's return to the original question since your eden posture fails to convince.

You do not understand if you think anything needs a defense. The appologetic was not created for you. I am simply looking for reasons from the atheist position as to why it would not scientifically work. To which you ALL have fail to provide any viable arguements.

Again this is not designed to replace what you believe this was created to change the way Christianity thinks. I wanted to test this theory here to see if anything could be said from your position.. Appearently you all have default to the whole Evedience arguement when you do not understand what is being discussed. Because Evidence has Absolutly Nothing to do with this conversation. The whole primise is based on one's acceptance of the Genesis account and can not reconsile the fossil record. It has nothing to do with providing "proof" because any Physical proof that supports evolution also supports this appologetic.

That is why I have been asking that you all to define what proof everyone is looking for. Because what you all would traditionally recognise as "proof" no longer supports an Anti-creation account of orgins.

That means your belief in Genesis is not required, because the new appologetic assimalates the whole threory of evolution and places the control of it squarly back in the hands of God. So now it becomes a matter of if you believe in God or not. (simply as a matter of personal prefference because You can not hide behind the idea of evolution disprooving God.) Otherwise know The burden of proof is on you to now show How the Theory of Evolution disprooves the Account of Creation in Genesis. However if you own up to you person preference in not believeing God not then the conversation is over. Again, no proof needed.

Now do you get why out of 120 posts only a hand full of you are asking for evidence? your buddies get that i have change the paradime of the traditional arguement. They know this, and they know the only way to stop me is to find some personal flaw, or even better some intelectual flaw so they can trivialize and dismiss the whole thing out right, rather than directly confront the arguement/appologetic. that is why the majority of the conversation i have been having or have been ignoring have been levied against me personally and not the message i have given.

You start from a premise that Evolution does not cancel out Creationism, and you need to realise this is not necessarily the position many of us take.

I have, and you should also realize that Most of you do. (Just read a few post that do not belong to you.)

Its fundamentalist literal christians who see it as a threat to their views, whereby you have taken a middle road. I can respect that, but I'm sure you can understand why nobody takes it very seriously. After all, we don't even take christians who call it allegory all together seriously either.

But to simply answer the original question;

Why do we think Evolution cancels out Creationism? We don't. We will defend it against absurdity, and promote education on the matter, however, the cute little mythologies of the world bear little relation to scientific fact. It wasn't proposed to disprove anything, simply explain why we have such diversity of species (in terms of natural selection).

We see a lot of silly people, with unsubstantiated ideas, but an organic cell doesn't care what you believe.. it just is.
So be it with science, and theories of evolution, whether definitely true or not, you simply look at the evidence and see where it leads you.
Absolute faith, well, it can guide and comfort many people who are lost, but like a sat nav, its probably safe to be absolutely sure that bridge actually exists before you put all your faith in it.

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fair enough, but there are over 100 posts here that all generally speak to the contary of what you have just said.. Perhaps their was confusion in how a thread on a how message boards works. A person may post a question or a comment that may or may not have anything to do with you. He may even address the anomous Reader as you or you all. Know for certain that he does not mean you specifically. Therefore if you find what the person says is untrue about you, then know You (or whom ever) does not need to defend His personal honor. Primarily because You were not call out specifically.