RE: NoMoreFaith's suggestion
March 24, 2012 at 11:07 am
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2012 at 11:08 am by Welsh cake.)
(March 24, 2012 at 9:35 am)Bueller Wrote: Religious views: I believe that the god of the Bible is real and that Jesus is his son sent to guide us in our lives. However, I don't believe that the Bible was written by God. It was written by humans who, mostly, totally misunderstood the message that was being given which is why Jesus was sent, to clear things up if you like.You do realise the glaring implication of what you just omitted right? If the writers of the Bible who supposedly were "divinely inspired" by this being yet totally misinterpreted the supposed "divine message" of this external supernatural source, then you have no basis whatsoever to assert the Bible as credible or reliable. You cannot assert its still a valid and factual representation of your deity if they completely misunderstood the messages. Where's your justification for this statement?
Quote:I believe this contact will come in the form of alien contact from an older and more advanced race who will teach us about the divine and share with us their knowledge and technology.What happens if the first contact we get comes from an invasive warmongering alien species? Or worse? What if they're "life" but not as we know it? Life-forms which have the same regard and disdain for us as we would for mould growing on vegetables? They look upon us 'ugly carbon-based life-forms' with contempt and treat us no differently than an infestation that should be exterminated as quickly as possible. Why do you assume just because they're technologically more advanced than us they're certainly bound to be peace-loving, benign and respect diversity across the cosmos?
Quote:We will also learn that up until that point we have been shielded from the rest of the Galaxy not only to protect us from some of the more dangerous races but also to allow us to develop unimpeded from unwanted interference.Wait a minute... what? So there are dangerous life-forms out there that can invade us but something is preventing them? Like what?
Quote:Obviously therefore it follows that I believe that the Universe is brimming over with life and civilisations, some very young and spiritually undeveloped as we were before agriculture ranging all the way to so far advanced and knowledgeable that we would not even recognise them as life at all.I don't know where this is coming from. The vast majority of the cosmos, as we know, is chaotic, violent and hostile to life in general. Case in point: How many planets in our solar system can support life?
Also, how much of that planet(s) surface/terrain is inhospitable to life?
Quote:The more advanced a race becomes the closer to GodYou just said there were dangerous races out there more technologically advanced than us didn't you?
Quote:ultimately it finds its own way to heaven, which is what God wants from us, to work things out for ourselves sometimes on our own and sometimes with the help of others.Why does god want us to be independent by returning to him and thereby becoming dependant on him in an idyllic higher plane of existence? Sorry, but you're not making any sense so far.
Quote:If, like humans, we are still part of a somewhat primitive and ignorant civilisation then we stay within that group of civilisations that are on a similar level to us and get reincarnated to a level dictated by the life we have just led.Ugh. I'm losing interest fast. Give me the void of oblivion any day over fucking reincarnation. I could never be so cruel as to drag someone who had a shitty life back into existence so they get to do the same song-and-dance all over again just for my amusement. That's a fate worst than death.
Quote:Of course, if they then muck that life up there is nothing stopping them being demoted back to a lesser civilisation next time around. It's a bit like Cosmic snakes and ladders.That board game analogy strengthens my resolve. Fuck that. I'd DEFINITELY prefer the void of oblivion over this endless cycle of specie-swapping bullshit.
Quote:During this time we can use the morphic resonance field to form a connection with them, although it does tend to be a bit hit and miss sometimes....please stop...
Quote:He is conscious, caring, loving and wise beyond our comprehension and that we, as conscious beings are a small but important part of that Cosmic consciousness.Then why say he's conscious, caring, loving and wise if you can't comprehend the being you're talking about? Why say anything at all?
Quote:He may be more powerful and knowledgeable than it is possible for even some of the most advanced races to comprehend but he, like us, is still learning and growing and we are a way to help him do that.Apart from substituting the label 'universe' for 'god' which is a done-to-death exercise do you have any evidence for this?
(March 24, 2012 at 9:48 am)Cinjin Wrote: What is the name of these beliefs you have? It sounds like some bizarre integration of Christianity, Scientology, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, and too many Friday nights watching reruns of Star Trek the Next Generation.Some sort of hybrid of Pantheism, Universalism and Buddhism.
Common-as-muck as far as heretic theistic beliefs go.
Pandeism is still the most profound of the 'children's stories' I've read so far.