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RE: Freewill

March 25, 2012 at 8:55 am

(March 25, 2012 at 3:37 am)Christian Wrote: God knowing what we are going to do does not mean that we can't do something else.

Yes actually it does, because if we did something else then God would not be omniscient. You seem to be forgetting that it was God who created EVERYTHING (according to you) so therefore he created us. Yes? If he created us and knows what decisions we will make then he is the one making us make those decisions. If you are telling me he is not making us make those decisions then he is either not omnipotent or he is malevolent. He has the choice to either create us and make us choose god (eliminating free will) or to make us and let us make the wrong choice, which he created us to make (making him an evil bastard).

Either way, your god sucks.

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Freewill - by Christian - March 24, 2012 at 9:17 pm

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RE: Freewill - by Christian - March 25, 2012 at 3:37 am

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RE: Freewill - by Napoléon - March 25, 2012 at 8:55 am

RE: Freewill - by Darwinian - March 25, 2012 at 3:38 am

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