Freewill

[Drich]

Free Will, is the ability to choose between different alternatives without coercion.
In order for free will to exist, there must be doubt about the outcome of the alternatives, otherwise your choice is default, predestined.
Whether its your choice or not, you have no alternatives, this is the choice you were always going to make, from the start of time itself. That's the classic definition of determinism.

Think of it this way, if you watch a movie you have already seen, you emulate prescience. Do the characters in the movie have free will, or the illusion of free will they make on the screen?
Clearly there is no free will in the movie, and likewise, if God knows your choices, then your choices were never between alternatives.
Thus, the premise that God has given us free will undeniably false.

You have defined the modern philosophy of free will. This has absolutely nothing to do with the biblical definition.

Free Will according to the biblical account is the ability to sin. We have indeed been given this ability. That said know that no where in scripture have we been promised the modern definition of "free Will." Infact most Calvinist say the opposite. In that you are an atheist because God designed you to be one, and you are here to test them and force spiritual growth.

I do not see the scriptural backing for all of that, but at the same time I do not see where "we/any of us" have been promised free will as you have described either.

That said, what i do see is we all have one choice to make and the bible defines That one choice as "Free Will." Nothing outside of that choice is of ANY Consequence. So whether or not your life have been predestined or not we have been guaranteed the right to choose whether or not we wish to spend an eternity with God.

No, I don't think we should eliminate that term. Merely because by definition it is the lack of coercion in choice between alternatives.
Does God have choices? Yes.
Can God be Coerced? No.
Therefore God must have free will.

This is the exact confusion I was talking about:
Do we have choices? No. We have only been given one thing to decide.
Meaning we have been promised one Choice and our "will" over that decision will be independent of God's. That is why it is defined as "Free Will."

Can we be coerced? Yes we can be "made" to serve the purposes of God even in our defiance and hard hearts (Pharaoh was a good example)

Do we agree so far?

You tell me. We seem to be talking about two different things. Free will as the bible defines it, and free will as it has been fantasized about by rebellious sentients from the dawn of creation.

Now God cannot change, he is supposed to be Perfect, and perfect requires no change.

Found a flaw already. Perfection with out change is predicated in an environment that does not change. Perfection in an ever changing environment by definition necessitates Change. Otherwise it would point to a deficiency.

Thought itself requires a change of state, you cannot have a thought without a change or conscious movement from one state of thought to another.
Therefore God cannot think. It denies perfection to consider that God can think, and therefore improve a thought process. You cannot improve perfection.

He cannot change, he cannot improve, he cannot think, he cannot choose. What a weak beast is this God of man.

All moot if your foundational principle is in error.

Your argument leads that, if God exists, he is coerced by his own definition of perfection, and cannot have free will.
What appears to be the case is that you argue that perfection is defined by Gods decisions, rather than the other way round.

Perfection is defined by God's actions not the other way around. Look what appears to be the paradoxical behavior of God in the OT. It is perceived as paradoxical because those who think this way is believe that "perfection" (much like morality) is an intrinsic standard of Good, apart from God. When in fact if one simply shifts the paradigm and places Whatever God wills at the root of perfection then all is reconciled.

Where we have trouble understanding the nature of God is when we try and make Him fit our understanding of "righteousness" rather than seek out His.

Interesting paradox by the way, in form of a fun word game,
If God is a perfect creator, then his perfect achievement is made greater by the disabilities overcome to create, there is no greater disability than non-existence, therefore God does not exist. Fun eh.

Only if the foundation of the word game holds true. God is perfect, and He is The Creator. The question then should be did He create everything perfectly? In the garden we can say yes. Outside the opposite seems true.