(March 27, 2012 at 10:21 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The OP states that there cannot be a good god because that god allows evil. It is inconsistent to assert moral relativism and at the same time accuse anyone, including god, of immorality. You cannot say god is indifferent to evil and then turn around and say that there is no such thing as evil.
Waffling about morality seems to be a habit on this forum. People here want to accuse god of all kinds of atrocities and say how evil he must be. They also want to show all the evil performed by the religious people. Those who invoke these kinds of arguments behave illogical at best and disingenuous at worst. They want it both ways. They want to assert the immorality of religion and at the same time fail to provide any rational basis for determining why the actions described are in fact evil.
You're assuming a whole heck of stuff about my views on this thread. I have stated so many times the main argument I make. I don't say how immoral god is nor do I point the finger at believers and say they are immoral. I don't even say god is evil. Here's my argument stripped down to the core:
God is omnibenevolent. Because of his benevolence this means it is impossible for god to want to create anything less than a perfect world. Evil exists in the world. Therefore, god is not omnibenevolent. Therefore, he doesn't exist.
Can't get any more black and white than that.
P.s. evil doesn't only have to be about others' actions. Infant deaths by starvation is only just the beginning of the 'evil stuff'.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle