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God formally disproven
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RE: God formally disproven
Actually, I have to support Chad's position here.

A formally positive claim was made : Proof of god's non-existence.

The proof provided was incomplete : It never assumed omnipotence on god's part and yet assumed he had the power to create the perfect world.

The proof did not specify what was meant by the terms: If good and evil are objective concepts then their objectivity was never established. If they are subjective concepts, then upon whose subjective judgment do they rely and why should that be considered standard.

The argument assumes facts not established: Such as evil exists.

Finally, the argument is logically invalid: The best possible world (with minimal possible evil) is not the same as a perfect world (no evil). Omnibenevolence - the infinite desire to do good, does not imply the infinite capacity to do good.


All the arguments leveled against common and similarly shoddy theistic arguments for the existence of god are valid against this proof of his non-existence as well. Turnabout is fair play.
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God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 26, 2012 at 10:32 am
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 26, 2012 at 10:45 am
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 26, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: God formally disproven - by mediamogul - March 26, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 26, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: God formally disproven - by NoMoreFaith - March 26, 2012 at 11:19 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Xavier - March 26, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Statler Waldorf - March 28, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by oxymoron - March 28, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 28, 2012 at 8:51 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by mediamogul - March 28, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 26, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Rhizomorph13 - March 26, 2012 at 3:52 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Minimalist - March 26, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Grundy - March 26, 2012 at 5:07 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: God formally disproven - by MysticKnight - March 27, 2012 at 1:42 am
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 26, 2012 at 11:10 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 26, 2012 at 11:17 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by MysticKnight - March 26, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 26, 2012 at 11:50 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by mediamogul - March 27, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2012 at 8:47 am
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 12:54 am
Re: RE: God formally disproven - by fr0d0 - March 27, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 2:28 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Godschild - March 27, 2012 at 2:33 am
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 3:08 am
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 2:55 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Godschild - March 27, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Forsaken - March 27, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Christian - March 27, 2012 at 5:35 am
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 6:23 am
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 6:39 am
RE: God formally disproven - by KichigaiNeko - March 27, 2012 at 6:24 am
RE: God formally disproven - by KichigaiNeko - March 27, 2012 at 7:36 am
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 8:54 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2012 at 10:50 am
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 11:21 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Nine - March 27, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by NoMoreFaith - March 27, 2012 at 10:56 am
RE: God formally disproven - by mediamogul - March 27, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Mister Agenda - March 27, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by LastPoet - March 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 27, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 27, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 27, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 27, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: God formally disproven - by NoMoreFaith - March 28, 2012 at 5:10 am
RE: God formally disproven - by mediamogul - March 28, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: God formally disproven - by NoMoreFaith - March 28, 2012 at 11:22 am
RE: God formally disproven - by mediamogul - March 28, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: God formally disproven - by NoMoreFaith - March 28, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: God formally disproven - by mediamogul - March 28, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 28, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by genkaus - March 28, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Rhizomorph13 - March 28, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 28, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by oxymoron - March 28, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Statler Waldorf - March 28, 2012 at 5:47 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by oxymoron - March 28, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Statler Waldorf - March 28, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by oxymoron - March 29, 2012 at 4:51 am
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Statler Waldorf - March 28, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2012 at 7:27 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 28, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by Neo-Scholastic - March 28, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by The Grand Nudger - March 28, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: God formally disproven - by FallentoReason - March 29, 2012 at 4:40 am

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