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Freewill
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RE: Freewill
(March 28, 2012 at 2:24 am)Godschild Wrote:
(March 27, 2012 at 8:45 pm)Cinjin Wrote: I just read 8 pages of some serious apologists bull shit. Yuck! (I think I just threw up a little in my mouth) [/exaggeration]


Just let the sheep believe what they want. They're never going to see it people. They don't want to. They can't.

I see just fine, I see just fine because I choose to, I see just fine because I trust God to show me the way.
(March 27, 2012 at 8:09 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:
Godschild Wrote:Paul was only interested in helping out the early christians
Yes.

Quote:God inspired his words
Just like Allah opened the doors of heaven for Mohammad's visit. Because it's obvious when gods decided to interact with humans.

Mohammad never visited God, Mohammad forgot the teachings of the Torah, no man can look upon God and live, God even told Moses this, Mohammad has many flaws in his teachings, Mohammad was just another want-a-be.

Maybe it's my engineering discipline here, but you can't logically assume you're being guided by God if the middle-man, Jesus, never existed. You want the NT to be the link to God and vice versa but without Jesus the NT doesn't have a foothold on reality at all. There's a huge hole that the hearsay of the gospels try to fill in. It's like trying to cross a bridge that has a massive gap in the middle. You can't get from one side to the other. The NT and the idea of God just aren't connected in any way, shape or form.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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