RE: God formally disproven
March 28, 2012 at 11:22 am
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2012 at 11:24 am by NoMoreFaith.)
(March 28, 2012 at 11:10 am)mediamogul Wrote: Its unavoidable in whatever christian definition of the term one accepts whether it be disobedience of god's law/will, breaking the commandments, sin, original sin etc... within that context, to a believing christian "evil"/"sin" exists in some facet otherwise it is useless to talk about Jesus as a sin offering for the world. If one does not accept this bare minimum definition one could not accept the basic requirements of calling oneself a christian. So within the Christian worldview sin neccessarily exists. Which at least makes the question a valid one to pose to a Christian.
The concept of religious sin = evil itself relies on the assumption that the religious terms are valid in order to refute the premise. Its circular in nature. Therefore it is a useless term in a philosophical argument about existence of God.
God doesn't exist because of Evil, which wouldn't exist without assuming God is real when we accept this definition. It cannot be allowed to be used, any more than we can allow the Bible to be evidence of creationism.
For Evil to be a concept for use in a philosophical argument, it needs to have a measurable objective criteria, not a metaphysical one. That is easy to provide with the definition of "needless pain and suffering".
It is not valid to use their definition of evil when posing the question to a Christian. Its smoke and mirrors. Can they deny needless pain and suffering? Its explained only in terms of causation by humankind but not causally linked to a omnibenevolent God, and its this logical fallacy which should be addressed.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
