RE: God formally disproven
March 28, 2012 at 11:40 am
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2012 at 11:40 am by NoMoreFaith.)
(March 28, 2012 at 11:28 am)mediamogul Wrote: I don't disagree. My disagreement with the "problem of evil" argument is that is does not demonstrate gods nonexistence. At best it demonstrates a logical contradiction when one claims god posseses qualities of omipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence. God cannot be all powerful and have something exist against his will. The argument is that sin exists against gods will therefore god is either not omnipotent or not omnibenevolent.
True, but I think there is a mistaken belief that a single argument can disprove Gods existence given the wide range of attributes given to him.
The only way to do so is counter the individual attributes that make up the whole, the basis for God.
God is not disprovable, but omnipotence, omniscience, omnibenevolence, and omnipresence can be logically criticised.
Using the example that made me laugh from Douglas Gasking, and referenced in the God Delusion as an example of the value laden assumptions of the ontological argument;
- The creation of the world is the most marvellous achievement imaginable.
- The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.
- The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.
- Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of an existent creator we can conceive a greater being—namely, one who created everything while not existing.
- An existing God therefore would not be a being greater than which a greater cannot be conceived because an even more formidable and incredible creator would be a God which did not exist.
- Ergo:
God does not exist.
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If you’re going to watch tele, you should watch Scooby Doo. That show was so cool because every time there’s a church with a ghoul, or a ghost in a school. They looked beneath the mask and what was inside?
The f**king janitor or the dude who runs the waterslide. Throughout history every mystery. Ever solved has turned out to be. Not Magic. ― Tim Minchin, Storm
