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Ex Theists
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RE: Ex Theists
Answers From Philosophy: our very existence, the universal stability of 1=1, the establishment of justice and morality (unique by viewpoint), to name a few.

Philosophy, as with a great many things, can bring one answers. As with science and faith, the answers can be incorrect... but unlike science which relies purely on the physical, and faith which relies purely on belief: philosophy brings one answers from pure logic. That means that philosophy (assuming it is well thought through) is almost always reasonable.

And without reason... where would our science be? Science is completely based on chance. Even if something happens 500 times in a row under the same conditions... it is still possible for it to happen differently on the 501st time. The scientific method does not acknowledge this fact... and assumes that if it happens a few times the same way: it will not alter in an infinite number of tests. This is all well and good if we are in a universe formed not by intelligent beings. But it is impossible to prove that we are or not... therefore science must blindly assume that our world abides by the same laws at all time (if it is to progress at any reasonable pace).

Science can work on a single math equation for years and years, whereas i by simple logic can tell them wether it is or is not possible in mere minutes. This does not negate the need for mathematicians... however it does show how easy it is for a lay person to learn a great deal without throwing vital lifetime into something they only care a little about. That is why all of us should be, at least partly, philosophers. Not because all of us care to know about why we must exist, or why one must equal one... but because a little doubt and a little wisdom can save one years of wasted time in learning 'the hard way'.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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Ex Theists - by Darwinian - August 11, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: Ex Theists - by leo-rcc - August 11, 2009 at 3:53 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Ace Otana - August 11, 2009 at 5:04 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 11, 2009 at 7:33 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 11, 2009 at 7:47 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Overmars - August 11, 2009 at 9:28 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 11, 2009 at 3:40 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 11, 2009 at 3:51 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Tiberius - August 11, 2009 at 7:37 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Overmars - August 11, 2009 at 9:23 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Eilonnwy - August 11, 2009 at 9:26 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Eilonnwy - August 11, 2009 at 9:35 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Tiberius - August 11, 2009 at 10:48 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Eilonnwy - August 11, 2009 at 11:06 am
RE: Ex Theists - by LukeMC - August 11, 2009 at 11:12 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Rhizomorph13 - August 11, 2009 at 11:23 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 11, 2009 at 9:34 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Minimalist - August 11, 2009 at 10:26 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by padraic - August 12, 2009 at 7:17 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 12, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 13, 2009 at 3:48 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Tiberius - August 12, 2009 at 8:36 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 12, 2009 at 6:41 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 13, 2009 at 2:06 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 12, 2009 at 6:52 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 12, 2009 at 7:27 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 12, 2009 at 7:30 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 12, 2009 at 7:39 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Tiberius - August 12, 2009 at 7:40 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 12, 2009 at 8:43 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 12, 2009 at 11:45 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by padraic - August 13, 2009 at 2:42 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 13, 2009 at 7:39 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 13, 2009 at 7:59 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 13, 2009 at 10:12 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 13, 2009 at 8:07 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 13, 2009 at 9:37 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Darwinian - August 13, 2009 at 8:37 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Eilonnwy - August 13, 2009 at 8:51 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Overmars - August 13, 2009 at 9:31 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 13, 2009 at 8:45 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Tiberius - August 13, 2009 at 8:46 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 13, 2009 at 8:50 am
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 13, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 13, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 13, 2009 at 5:08 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 14, 2009 at 7:27 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 13, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Darwinian - August 13, 2009 at 5:14 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 13, 2009 at 5:18 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Eilonnwy - August 13, 2009 at 10:34 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 3:17 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Eilonnwy - August 14, 2009 at 9:04 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Darwinian - August 13, 2009 at 5:19 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 13, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Dotard - August 13, 2009 at 10:45 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Rhizomorph13 - August 13, 2009 at 11:07 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 8:32 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 14, 2009 at 10:07 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 14, 2009 at 8:35 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Tiberius - August 14, 2009 at 9:27 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Eilonnwy - August 14, 2009 at 9:37 am
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 11:52 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2009 at 3:08 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 14, 2009 at 4:29 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 3:23 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2009 at 3:38 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 3:42 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2009 at 4:34 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 4:52 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 14, 2009 at 4:56 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 5:04 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 14, 2009 at 6:02 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2009 at 5:23 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by padraic - August 14, 2009 at 7:36 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2009 at 7:45 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by theVOID - August 14, 2009 at 9:30 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2009 at 11:17 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 5:37 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2009 at 6:08 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 14, 2009 at 6:24 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 14, 2009 at 7:11 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 15, 2009 at 5:17 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 15, 2009 at 9:19 am
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2009 at 3:50 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by theVOID - August 14, 2009 at 7:43 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 14, 2009 at 9:22 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 14, 2009 at 9:32 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Violet - August 15, 2009 at 6:09 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Rhizomorph13 - August 15, 2009 at 12:11 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - August 15, 2009 at 6:31 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:12 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - September 9, 2009 at 4:18 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Pippy - August 15, 2009 at 7:17 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Tiberius - August 15, 2009 at 12:43 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 15, 2009 at 1:20 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Rhizomorph13 - August 15, 2009 at 1:27 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Dotard - August 16, 2009 at 1:40 am
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 16, 2009 at 7:12 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 15, 2009 at 1:31 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Rhizomorph13 - August 15, 2009 at 1:48 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - August 15, 2009 at 1:52 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Tiberius - August 15, 2009 at 6:05 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by Rhizomorph13 - August 16, 2009 at 10:34 am
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - August 16, 2009 at 4:48 pm
RE: Ex Theists - by beenthere - September 9, 2009 at 1:59 am
RE: Ex Theists - by theblindferrengi - September 9, 2009 at 2:16 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:26 am
RE: Ex Theists - by theblindferrengi - September 9, 2009 at 2:29 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Violet - September 9, 2009 at 2:30 am
RE: Ex Theists - by fr0d0 - September 9, 2009 at 4:01 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 12:00 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 5:07 am
RE: Ex Theists - by theVOID - September 10, 2009 at 5:34 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 5:48 am
RE: Ex Theists - by theVOID - September 10, 2009 at 6:06 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 6:08 am
RE: Ex Theists - by theVOID - September 10, 2009 at 6:41 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 6:59 am
RE: Ex Theists - by theVOID - September 10, 2009 at 7:07 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 7:20 am
RE: Ex Theists - by theVOID - September 10, 2009 at 7:30 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 9:22 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Kyuuketsuki - September 10, 2009 at 10:12 am
RE: Ex Theists - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 10:18 am

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