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[Drich]

So what about the ones that claim that those in other denominations are following a creed that leads to hell? The Pentecostals, for instance, seem pretty sure they've got salvation sewn up and anyone who believes differently is damned.

The command is to love God with all of your being. This means (for some) that if they Love God a certain way and you do it differently then you must be wrong by default.(This is the limit of their heart and mind, for them this is ok) Again the command is to love God with everything not love God only a certain way. This works for and against people who think they have a lock on religion.

However, there is one draw back to this type of theology. It is that if you think you have it sewn up like that you will be judged to the strictest interpretation of your beliefs. So someone like that better walk the talk.

Maybe God doesn't care if we worship him at all.

He sure went through alot of trouble not to care.

If so, does his responsibility stop there? It takes more than being responsible for someone's conception to be a parent.

Like what?

Yesterday. No answer. Just like always.

What number did you use?

That's because, if he exists, he doesn't show himself.

That is funny because i do not have this problem. Nor does anyone else who follows the prescribed path.

If he wants to be invisible, it's not fair to blame people for not seeing him.

Maybe you just do not know what to look for. Matter of fact I can say none of us do unless we have help. Only those who ask seek and knock receive this help.

I don't have to guess or have revelations to verify real things exist.

Perhaps you do not understand the term. Revelation simply means an understanding you have been given. You need to be given understanding of everything in the world around you. for instance:

My dad can call me on my cell and knows just what to say for me to believe it's really him.

Before you knew how to work a cell phone or knew they made phones with out cords your dad could call and if you did not know or if it not have been revealed how to use your phone you would not get what you are looking for from him.

Which would lead to comments like this about your own father:

A feat beyond an omnipotent being who supposedly loves me more than my actual father does.

you have to first learn how to contact God before you can hear from Him.

I'll cop to this one. When I realized God is imaginary, I stopped pretending he is real. I'll be happy to come back if he'll just let me know he's real. No miracle needed, the right words from a particular person would do it.

So you would hold you faith Hostage from God and if He did magic tricks for you then you would believe in a great magician?

what if God did not want you to believe in a great magician? What if He demanded that you approach Him like He has commanded all other people for some reason? Why would He have anything to say to you till you complied?

If the most important/powerful man in your country wanted to speak with you but would only do so in a very specific protocol would you demand that he see you on your terms? What if you knew He wanted to give you a priceless gift? Would you demand that he perform magic tricks for you?
I am going to assume you said no, so that makes me ask why would you demand this from the Almighty God?

Been there, done that, doesn't change anything but my own take on things, which any religion at all can accomplish.

Actually you haven't. The Ask Seek and knock of Luke 11 does not have an expiration date. This means you may be required to ask seek and knock the rest of your life. Usually though it is just past the time limit you placed on your efforts.
This means if you "been there done that" you would have what you seek.
You might have been there and tried that but know you fail on your first try. Ask for help on your second.

Which would be fine except for the eternal hell thing. He hides from those who don't seek him and has them tortured for eternity for not seeking him. It's monstrous.

Only to those going to hell.
Asking and seeking is not a hard thing to do unless one's pride will not allow it. Even if have no desire to ask and seek you can ask for this desire to be given to you. There is no reason anyone could have for not doing this, because it is done for you if you just get the ball rolling.

Is it really a warning if you know we're already perfectly aware of it? Do you think reminding us of your deity's injustice will draw us to him?

Hell was not the carrot or the stick here. What was being demonstrated is the righteousness of your final judgment. The focus was on the fact that you will know why and what you will have been found guilty of and there will not be any doubt when you receive your sentence. Hell again was not the focus of the discussion it is the righteousness and final judgment you will acknowledge from God.
(this means by your own admission on that day you will know justice will have been done.)
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Justice is when you get what you deserve, in balance with your deeds.

Do you think that the Nazi's considered themselves to be "bad people?" or perhaps do you think that they justified what they did for the greater good of the German people?

Infinite punishment (or infinite reward, in the case of heaven) for finite actions is the essence of injustice. Hell is a problem for Christians. I recommend that you jettison it along with objection to evolution.

i guess you have not been apart of my evolution discussion.

As far as getting rid of the idea of hell that is more God's call than my own.