Freewill

[Godscreated]

Jesus going to the cross is the bridge that fills that gap. The OT is a witness to the NT and the message it brings, the disciples used the OT to show the truth of Christ to those they witnessed to and taught. Jesus himself referred to the OT on many occasions.

And lest someone forget, being sacrificed for the sin of mankind is no easy feat.

Ofcourse, it is. You just have to die. Dying is not difficult - anyone can do it. In fact, everyone does do it.

How is everyone sacrificed, Christ gave His life willingly even for those who refuse to believe, would you, I want to see you pull of the second part. RAISE FROM THE DEAD.

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Maybe it's my engineering discipline here, but you can't logically assume you're being guided by God if the middle-man, Jesus, never existed. You want the NT to be the link to God and vice versa but without Jesus the NT doesn't have a foothold on reality at all. There's a huge hole that the hearsay of the gospels try to fill in. It's like trying to cross a bridge that has a massive gap in the middle. You can't get from one side to the other. The NT and the idea of God just aren't connected in any way, shape or form.

Jesus going to the cross is the bridge that fills that gap. The OT is a witness to the NT and the message it brings, the disciples used the OT to show the truth of Christ to those they witnessed to and taught. Jesus himself referred to the OT on many occasions.

Yes it all works so beautifully. Now the only way to convert those stubborn ones is to show them the secular proof that scripture is historically accurate. The question is, do you have the courage to find out the truths about the scriptures you read almost daily?

I seek the truth within them so that I can better understand why Christ found us worth dying for. I seek the truth of God's love, I do not use the Bible for a history book because it was never intended for that purpose, the scriptures are about God's redemption of humanity and the love He has for His Messiah. It is my opinion that it doesn't take courage to seek out scriptural truth, a humble heart opens up much.

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I just read 8 pages of some serious apologists bull shit. Yuck! (I think I just threw up a little in my mouth) [/exaggeration]


Just let the sheep believe what they want. They're never going to see it people. They don't want to. They can't.

I see just fine, I see just fine because I choose to, I see just fine because I trust God to show me the way.

People who "SEE just fine" don't need anyone to SHOW them the way. Point made. Game. Set. Match.

Mohammad never visited God, Mohammad forgot the teachings of the Torah, no man can look upon God and live, God even told Moses this, Mohammad has many flaws in his teachings, Mohammad was just another want-a-be.

Being that you are by no means any kind of an expert on anything Islam, I would love to get Rayaan to weigh in on this comment.
There are many Muslims who would happily kill you over this comment. You've just committed heresy and blasphemy and they now have the right to stone you.
What makes this even more amusing is how quickly you will call all of us non-believers blasphemers when we mock your silly god, but you'll go ahead and do it yourself on a whim.

Do you get my original point yet? You do NOT see. You cannot see. You won't see. You don't want to and no matter how much truth we put directly in front of you, you will not see it because someone else (by your own admission) shows you "the way".

I'm sorry, but if this image had a blindfold, it would be you.

I am glad that Christ is my shepherd, I trust his guidance. I do not trust you nor what you seem to believe is truth. God being creator of all things is the only One who can possibly hold all truth. This I see as clear as day.
As for Muslims I speak of what I see as the truth the same as Rayaan does about christianity, I have no hard fillings toward Rayaan and what he thinks of christianity.

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Jesus going to the cross is the bridge that fills that gap. The OT is a witness to the NT and the message it brings, the disciples used the OT to show the truth of Christ to those they witnessed to and taught. Jesus himself referred to the OT on many occasions.

And lest someone forget, being sacrificed for the sin of mankind is no easy feat.

I can't get my head around why god would sacrifice himself to himself to rectify the sin of mankind, when he could just change the rules on sin or forgive everyone. Or maybe forgive some and punish the others depending on sin severity.

Why sacrifice a life at all?

Why did all old god cults involve killing something to please whatever god? It's all shite. All of it.

God did not sacrifice to himself, only man can sacrifice something to God. God sacrificed his Messiah for man to save man from the sin man so loves. There is a big difference in your little picture compared to the big picture that only God can see.