RE: Uni Health Care
August 15, 2009 at 1:50 pm
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2009 at 2:04 pm by bozo.)
Adrian,
Re. Libertarianism. I've read your response to my questions and I start by saying I agree 100% with the sentiments of Padraic's post no.78. Flat-rate taxation would benefit only the wealthy.
Similarly, privatising education would be disastrous for the poor. As for creating more graduates, we have too many at the moment and many come out of university riddled with debt and unable to find " better " jobs.
So you would cut benefits to the unemployed and create new jobs. Exactly how? What kind of jobs?
The pensions issue is a biggy in my book. Even now, many young workers are unable to save enough for their old age. Add to that the fact that people are living longer and the situation looks bleak, unless something drastic happens. The rich and very rich have to contribute more through progressive taxation and wasteful use of money on wars and weapons of mass destruction has to end and that money put to social uses, like pensions and care for the ageing population.
I agree with you, Libertarians aren't Socialists, and I detect that they are really not about closing the gap between the wealthiest and poorest on our planet.
dry land fish,
I disagree with you over healthcare and hope Obama manages to provide healthcare to the 46 milion of your fellow Americains who haven't any at the moment.
Rather than pick up point by point from your posts, I will comment on just the one.
You spoke about your background and are probably proud to say that your parents refused state help because they felt it belittled them. That resonates with me because I have heard similar things in my own country, England. I have to say that I profoundly disagree that accepting state help is anything to be ashamed of. Indeed I would argue that the state has a duty to ensure the worst off in society are looked after., with no stigma attached.
I do hope you are actually more compassionate for your fellow men, women and children than has come across thus far.
Re. Libertarianism. I've read your response to my questions and I start by saying I agree 100% with the sentiments of Padraic's post no.78. Flat-rate taxation would benefit only the wealthy.
Similarly, privatising education would be disastrous for the poor. As for creating more graduates, we have too many at the moment and many come out of university riddled with debt and unable to find " better " jobs.
So you would cut benefits to the unemployed and create new jobs. Exactly how? What kind of jobs?
The pensions issue is a biggy in my book. Even now, many young workers are unable to save enough for their old age. Add to that the fact that people are living longer and the situation looks bleak, unless something drastic happens. The rich and very rich have to contribute more through progressive taxation and wasteful use of money on wars and weapons of mass destruction has to end and that money put to social uses, like pensions and care for the ageing population.
I agree with you, Libertarians aren't Socialists, and I detect that they are really not about closing the gap between the wealthiest and poorest on our planet.
dry land fish,
I disagree with you over healthcare and hope Obama manages to provide healthcare to the 46 milion of your fellow Americains who haven't any at the moment.
Rather than pick up point by point from your posts, I will comment on just the one.
You spoke about your background and are probably proud to say that your parents refused state help because they felt it belittled them. That resonates with me because I have heard similar things in my own country, England. I have to say that I profoundly disagree that accepting state help is anything to be ashamed of. Indeed I would argue that the state has a duty to ensure the worst off in society are looked after., with no stigma attached.
I do hope you are actually more compassionate for your fellow men, women and children than has come across thus far.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
