RE: Ex Theists
August 16, 2009 at 10:34 am
(This post was last modified: August 16, 2009 at 10:35 am by Rhizomorph13.)
Fr0d0,
I gotta admit that I pinched much of that from JP's argument. I DID hold a theistic worldview for a very long time, and while I have no online debates to prove it, I argued wholeheartedly to convince people they should follow Jesus.
Usually they were in the broad category of "don't know, don't care" a group I still don't understand. It is one thing to understand religion and THEN conclude that it is false. It is quite another to know nothing, have someone tell you that hell awaits and feel no reason to at least look into it.
Many people are the close-minded "skeptic" type that shun new knoledge from an apathetic stance. Like they defend their lack of understanding about organic produce and GMO foods by saying that farmers are probably lying about their crops anyway without ever looking into what those terms mean and how they can affect your health.
Now I am pretty sure there isn't a god and don't really know what to say to my theistic friends when they post weak arguments for god on Facebook. I tell them about the better arguments that I have heard and then explain that I am still going to be an atheist. In one of those posts to a friend of mine, one of HER friends shot a reply after my post saying this, "Huh? why would anyone one want to study books to prove the existence of someone who they know...that's just weird. PROVE WHAT YOU KNOW BY WHAT YOU DO (faith in action)! It's cool that love, grace and forgiveness don't need to be explained to work. They just need to be accepted. LIVE THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. JOY! love you Jessica!" I didn't respond to her but I wanted to say, "Um, bible much?"
Not all arguments on the web live up to the roiling battles we have here.
Rhizo
PS Thanks Dotard
I gotta admit that I pinched much of that from JP's argument. I DID hold a theistic worldview for a very long time, and while I have no online debates to prove it, I argued wholeheartedly to convince people they should follow Jesus.
Usually they were in the broad category of "don't know, don't care" a group I still don't understand. It is one thing to understand religion and THEN conclude that it is false. It is quite another to know nothing, have someone tell you that hell awaits and feel no reason to at least look into it.
Many people are the close-minded "skeptic" type that shun new knoledge from an apathetic stance. Like they defend their lack of understanding about organic produce and GMO foods by saying that farmers are probably lying about their crops anyway without ever looking into what those terms mean and how they can affect your health.
Now I am pretty sure there isn't a god and don't really know what to say to my theistic friends when they post weak arguments for god on Facebook. I tell them about the better arguments that I have heard and then explain that I am still going to be an atheist. In one of those posts to a friend of mine, one of HER friends shot a reply after my post saying this, "Huh? why would anyone one want to study books to prove the existence of someone who they know...that's just weird. PROVE WHAT YOU KNOW BY WHAT YOU DO (faith in action)! It's cool that love, grace and forgiveness don't need to be explained to work. They just need to be accepted. LIVE THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST. JOY! love you Jessica!" I didn't respond to her but I wanted to say, "Um, bible much?"
Not all arguments on the web live up to the roiling battles we have here.
Rhizo
PS Thanks Dotard
