(April 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:Who fought and died?
Ever heard of the Reformation and counter Reformation ?
The Reformation happened because the Catholic church had strayed from true Christianity. The church had become political. It was ruled by a pope and cardinals who cared more about power than following the Word. Rather adhering to the fundamental salvation by grace, they offered indulgences--meaning you had your sins forgiven if you gave the church enough money. In this case, it was the political non-Christian authorities killing reformers who undermined their power. The Reformation had nothing to do with varying interpretations and everything to do with keeping the hard scriptures from the public (hence why services remained in Latin).
Quote:Not sure how many of them, apart from the Catholics, still say the Nicene Creed in its original form.I doubt the Lutherans do.
Almost every church has the Nicene at least on their statement of faith. If they don't they're hiding something. Lutherans definitely do (they're the more catholic-like of the protestants), although ELCA is becoming increasingly secular. The question is not whether they say the creed every week, the question is who is in accordance with it.
Quote:The Church of England (Catholic lite) is most definitely mainstream and ordains women and admits gays.Those are probably the largest non-creed issues right now. Luckily, neither has any bearing on means of salvation or the inerrancy of the the Bible.