RE: Post number 1
April 7, 2012 at 1:09 am
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2012 at 1:10 am by Drich.)
(April 6, 2012 at 4:53 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.If I admit that I am a hypocrite then my Hypocrisy indeed has a beginning, therefore a boundary.
Which means my "hypocrisy" does indeed have boundries.
Quote:First you make a claim you cannot possibly back up: There is no way that you can know if someone grew up looking for a great magician as their god.Ok, so this is not an example of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is if we both lived our lives growing up looking for "the great magician," and i condemn that man for doing what i too was guilty of doing.
Which if you continue reading the person's original post, in whom that comment was originally addressed, he confirms his life long quest by the scope of his actions. So.. your arguement does not work anyway you want to look at it. However I can see why me being right would make you angery. Especially, if this is how you looked at God and was going to be your trump card on the day of your judgement.
Quote:Then you go on to claim that we all start with a very simple universally known set of parameters about who god is ... Again a statement you cannot possibly prove.Perhaps it would have been more productive if you asked how could i possibly say that?
These are not my words. this is What God tells all of us, so we are without excuse. If you do not like the assessment then simply take it up with God when you see Him.
Quote:Finally, to really slap us in the face with stupidity, and after you have basically admitted that "we" as a human race can't know who God is supposed to be, you contradict yourself by saying that you DO know who god is and that not only do you know, but that you can point the rest of us in the right direction to meet him.If you take the time to read what has actually been written.. I have said multiple times "We Being finite can not know (completely) an infinite God. However that does not mean we can not know the revealed aspects of God recorded in scripture." Maybe you have noticed and maybe you haven't but this is all i have been doing here since my first post, is pointing you all to the scripture rather than some obscurely believed religious doctrinal principle. Why? because this is what "we" can be sure and know of an Infinite God. To go off reservation and speak about the stuff you all and sometimes religious men wish to speak about is foolishness. especially when we have known aspects of God recorded for us.
Quote:So somewhere along the path, you figured it all out and you actually didn't muck it up,I never said I did not muck anything up. i muck up stuff alot.
Quote:as you say, and YOU (in all your intellectual genius) DO KNOW who god is and who he is supposed to be.Fortunately for me knowing the reveled nature of God is not something muckable if one stays in the bible. Because It's all written down for anyone to read. However if you are not a good reader then God will help you by breaking things down is real easy and simply to understand fragments played out in your life (usually in a series of trials) if you simply ask seek and knock for guidance by the Holy Spirit.
The difference between what I have done here and what others do is when i don't know I turn to God for the answer. If there is no response then I say I don't know. (thus minimizing my personal muck)
Quote:How nice for you. What sucks for us, is that you won't see this point I'm making. You won't understand why the verbal diarrhea that pours out of your mouth is so infuriating to the rest of the world who doesn't believe in your silly version of god.
Understand nothing I have was earned or deserved. I should not have even graduated High school. I left there on a 5th grade reading level, and still struggle with basic comprehension and sentence structure (as so many of you have pointed out) I did not grow up in church nor did I have religious teachers or classes. The only thing that separates my understanding of God and yours is i poured my self out to God asking for help understanding no matter what the cost.(and I have been asked to give up certain things, and did for this understanding)
He started me with basic reading with comic books (which is probably why i still write in a boxed format, and not in proper paragraphs using established sentence structure) then moved on to the NT of the bible. I didn't seriously started studying till maybe 10 years ago, which was all heavily slanted to a specific denomination. It wasn't till after I was married and all of the trials that came through helping someone kick a 10 year heroin, smoking and drinking addiction that I found God, apart from an organized religious system of belief. Again which is why i strictly look to and point to the bible.
4 years ago i started taking what I learned and sharing it with others start with all of the standard basics like: How can a loving God allow good things to happen to bad people and how can there be free will if God knows everything and on and on...
I didn't learn this stuff, it was given to me (most of the time as it was being written.) I know this scoffs at the normal pedigree you all demand when speculating with other men's thoughts and theories, so i challenge you address the work. Find a fault in the supporting scriptures or find a suspect precept and ask for Book chapter and verse to support what has been expressed. Test my work and the words I write for the Lord, and hold on to what is good. If I can not represent God accurately or correctly then I should be subject to any and all scrutiny that you can bring to bear. However if you try and fail (Which you will know in your heart) then also know you are now responsible for the principles and precepts that have been broken down and delivered to you. Meaning you will be without excuse.
Quote:Like all the rest of the sheep, you are a massive hypocrite.one of the things i learned early on (being on a 5th grade reading level and all) is to look up words you do are not sure of, just to make sure you are using it correctly, or some big DB will point out how foolish you look misusing the word.
(April 6, 2012 at 5:04 pm)Epimethean Wrote: "Death is our birth into eternity and unbelief leads to eternal separation."
You got that confused a bit.
Both death and unbelief lead to separation: The former to separation from the state of being alive, and the latter to separation from the state of being gullible.
We shall see