RE: Freewill
April 13, 2012 at 1:22 am
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2012 at 1:34 am by TheJackel.)
(April 13, 2012 at 1:12 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:(April 12, 2012 at 9:21 pm)Thomas Kelly Wrote: It's true that we don't know how exactly the brain works, but decision making is basically weighing the options in relation any giving thing, and to self. Free will would mean that you are not bound to the limited options available. Hence the emphasis on "free".. As in not limited or bound.. Now regarding decision making, can you make a choice on a fork in the road you have no knowledge of. How do you cognitively choose left or right if you have no information that left or right exists, or what left or right would mean to you in terms of choice. Hence, it's pretty hard to choose a path cognitively without any information on what it is you are supposed to make a cognitive choice on.
We are limited both in our physiology and mental capacity. This narrows down the margin of "free-will". That margin further decreases with "circumstance" and "genetics". Then theres various other factors that contribute from what food you eat to what air you breathe. All of these have some small effect on us. If some type of genius were to accurately record *all* factors and comprehend their effect then it is possible they would be able to calculate what decision you would make in any given situation. Is that an indicator of free-will?
As it stands we have scant information at best about how we actually form our decisions. Without that information you cannot possibly make a statement backing free-will with any weight behind it.
It might be an indicator, but not a validation of. A validation would be a being completely unbound to any limits, constraints, rules, or path ways of any kind... This of course being impossible... So free will in the literal context is a logical fallacy, and what we perceive to be free will is a placebo within a limited box that gives us some sort limited movement or ability. Think of it like TrackIR to where you are limited to 6 degrees of movement. It would be more accurate to call it governed and limited freedom to where "freedom" is a kind of placebo.
Another example is this:
Quote:Can an omniscient entity know how to create knowledge to which it does not already know?
So if something is infinitely knowledgeable and infinitely knows everything that can ever infinitely ever be known, how can it create knowledge it doesn't already know, or how can there be knowledge it doesn't know about?.. As you can see, free will, and the ability to do things can never actually be unlimited, or without restraints or constraints. It's like asking if you can exist without requiring existence to exist.. Well no you can't And btw, this also proves why there is no such possible thing as an uncased GOD, or some being theists would like to claim magically exists without cause.. So can ask a theist the toughest question you could ever ask them:
Quote:What is GOD without existence???
Then you can watch them pull their hair out, or cry about how their GOD requires the Pantheist GOD just to exist as the fictional fairy tale it is.