(April 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I don't know why they would want that. I have lived in a predominantly Christian country for three years. I made friends amongst people I knew who were going to church every sunday, some, evangelicals, some catholics, I've visited their homes...I was a Turk, a moslem, they were christian Germans. They have not given me a bible to read, but food to eat, they have not scorned me for being a heathen, but have spoken well of my manners.
so fucking what? I've encountered reasonable believers and non believers from all walks of life. That doesn't fucking consider the situation I outlined on what others see and feel.
Just because you've had a nice time, for the most part like me, doesn't mean everyone else is rolling along fine.
Derp.
(April 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: These people were simply the parents of a friend I knew from school. Not preachers, or pastors or missionaries.
I've met missionaries in Germany. Jehovah's witnesses. They came to our door, we told them politely that we were not interested. They never came back, but left a small booklet of theirs, which I read some six years later(I did not speak English back then). Now, why am I writing this, I think that people here are exaggerating things.
See above. Your experience != others. You were confused as to why people act this way, yet you refuse to acknowledge a scenario that I and others have encountered at least once.
To think that you've had a totally low-stress interactions with everyone on matters of faith the entire time certainly raises my eyebrows. But I'm not interested in your life, only simply communicating an intolerable situation where people are mindlessly pressing on you to change.
Sure, you may argue the "manly man" angle of ignoring and tolerating it, but that, once again, fails to account for other people's emotions. If every man acted in one set fashion, this would probably be a non issue. But people don't act the same.
(April 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: So you see, one can at least learn something from a side that one thinks that is the polar opposite of what he believes in, although I'm sure I'd get along with your fundamentalist friends and relatives, as I get along with the ones here, quite well.
I got along with quite a few fundies at my university before they figured out I was not a Christian. Then it instantly became poisonous for me, much to my confusion. So I stopped dealing with them and only give them as much as a greeting.
The less I said to them, the better they regarded me. And soon after, they couldn't resist listening to me wax on why McCain of 2001 was different from the current McCain. Because when it boiled down to matters, they really loved their politics and I could feed them analysis on why their favored candidate was favored but must've been better before.
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