Evolution

[mediamogul]

I suppose I have wandered off topic. If you live in a country with a large majority of theists, supporting democracy would be a self defeating system for an atheist. You need a state of your own like the Jews took Israel. Imagine an atheist state where people are all Godless and pragmatic. It would suit you fine, all laws, morals and ethics would be on a purely logical and scientific basis. The Soviet Union was atheist but it failed because it forced the people into atheism plus it was socialist and socialism works well in theory but doen't work in practise. So a capitalist atheist state would be good. Atheists could unite and petition the UN to give them a state of their own maybe big and empty like Canada. Or if you live in the USA you could have a partition and take some of the more Godless states like California and Nevada. India split to make Parkistan and Bangladesh. Even though there are more Muslims in India and the Banglas are probably more pagan than Muslim. Forgive my rambling, what do you think? At the end of the day it is pointless to have an atheist forum to no purpose. Everything is politics surely?

You've made a large number of errors.

1) Not all theists support imposing theistic beliefs on their secular government.

2) Constitutional democracies can create base laws which prohibit the imposition of theistic beliefs on the population or government, regardless of whether the country has a state religion (i.e. Colombia).

3) The USSR did not fail because it was atheist. It failed because of economic pressures, over-extended boundaries and corruption.

4) Atheists have a number of countries of their own, for example: the USA. The country and its laws are atheistic - the government cannot impose religious dogma on secular laws. Read the constitution or SCOTUS briefs once in a while. Residents can do whatever they want because the country is atheistic.

5) You are assuming everyone in Israel is Jewish and they all agree what that means, they aren't and they don't. Ever heard of the Palestinian/Israeli conflict?

6) Atheism does not imply pragmatism.

You seem to be arguing for a country that outlaws religion. This brings up the problem of how one defines religion (SCOTUS has the same problem). This ends up making it possible for such a government to outlaw any organized group with a common metaphysical doctrine. Religious countries do this and it results in internal strife and external pressures.

The idea is idiotic.

The only distinction I would make is that the USA is Secular as opposed to Atheistic. In that, in theory, the Government is supposed to be strictly separate from the church and will make no laws concerning religion. In practice it is not strictly enforced in the way the founding fathers had intended. James Madison for instance, who helped write the First Amendment, was stringently opposed to chaplains for Congress and the Armed Forces.

One other thing: Cold War expenses played a huge part in sinking the economy of the USSR.