(April 17, 2012 at 12:54 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:(April 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm)tobie Wrote:It is not ridiculous for them to desire their own country. It is ridiculous for them to ask us to build them a country, by giving them land, money and essentially everything that they need to do so.Mehmet Wrote:Besides, I didn't say that they didn't have a longer presence in the middle east, I just said that they lacked the presence in present day Turkey.
The average armenian or greek can lay more historical claim than the kurd on that accord, as there was an Armenian kingdom in present day *Kurdistan* and Alexander's empire stretched as wide as Central Asia, and his successor states, the Seleukids, than, the Romans and etc.
The Roman, Seleukid and Macedonian Empires were political entities. Most people in these empires were not Roman, Greek or Macedonian, there was a variety of "races" comprising them.
Kurdistan may have areas in Turkey, but the Kurds are the majority. Why is it ridiculous to let them have their own country where they live,instead of being ruled by, what are essentially, foreigners?
Armenia is it's own country, yet it has far fewer Armenians than Kurdistan has Kurds.
They would need to send the ten plagues of moses upon us to force us to comply with their ourageous demands. Besides, they ask for more land than the regions in which they have no majority in.
If they will not be loyal to this country, they can very much go and live in another. This is a take it or leave it country.
Besides, the reason they are able to voice out such treasonous requests is because they have not been punished by the people for their misdeeds.
They can freely roam Turkey, get an education in a public, state funded university, receive free healthcare, eat our food, and then go to the mountains and shoot at our soldiers while screaming for independence?
No way. Such individuals should be hanged in public, as a reminder for others. Look how Iran is dangling those assholes in the skies. This is the appropriate punishment of terrorism and terrorist propaganda.
I agree that them claiming land where they do not have a majority is wrong, but you could allow them to have the places where they do have a majority.
So you're now saying all kurds are terrorists? Whilst there are some, this is as flawed as saying all muslims are terrorists, and I'm fairly certain you don't believe that.
Also, resorting to taking a leaf from Iran's book is not the way to go.