Evolution

[Abishalom]

Yes, limitations from one generation to it's successor, and then the goalposts move for the next generation, ergo..limitless variation.

This is the old macro/micro chestnut, often trotted out by apologists who don't realize that they are one and the same (and just as often by those that do, who realize that you don't- you know, con artists....). You wont be able to present anything critical of EbNS that isn't outright bullshit or laughably ignorant. It's a dead horse. Save face.

There are no goalpost being moved in variation. The limit was set when the creatures were created. You do know that natural selection selects from the already existent gene pool, right? A single celled organism has the gene pool to become...well a single celled organism. Even mutations, which a very rare, have a limit to amount of variation it can impose. And most mutations are harmful or neutral (the neutral mutations eventually become harmful). There are absolutely no observed cases of them causing an entirely new family of organisms. There are no facts to back the claim that variation in limitless. The only con artist the man that tricked you into believing in an idea with absolutely no evidence to support it. All he did was take observed facts and expound on them with his imagination.

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I am aware the mutations cause variation. But even those can only be passed down through natural selection, and as I've documented there are limitations on natural selection.

And none of those limitations prevent macro-evolution.

No all of the limitations prevent it.

Also, mutations can only cause so much variation as well.

Evidence of this limitation?

Where's the evidence of infinite variation? There are absolutely no facts to back this claim. There are plenty that back the limited variation due to natural selection. Natural selection simply acts as a preserver of the species. It allows them to adapt to said environment. But the variation is within the species. It can lead to new sub-species (i.e. variation of finch, variations mice, variations of fruit flies etc) but it cannot change the entire genus or family of the species. It preserves the genetic material that is already there.