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Nationalism and secularism
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RE: Nationalism and secularism
Quote:Victors and victims, great but laid low, powerful but easily oppressed.
You are the victim when you allow yourself to be the victim, and you are the victor if you fight for victory. You are oppressed if you play the game by the rules of the oppressor, powerful if you make up the rules yourself.
Quote: Your nose and your tail are going in so many opposite directions in that post I can't help but wonder if you've gotten dizzy.
My nose and tail are in the same direction. I don't know what made you think that I have any inconsistencies in my words, point them out one by one, if you can find one.
Quote: That's the effect of fascist, ethnocentric propaganda on a receptive mind.
Oh sure, friend. You start spouting the generic antifa slogans, that I'm the result of a propaganda. My views are not the result of any political party, or are not in the same lines with the official state ideology. I formed my views from the writings of famed nationalist writers, all dead by now, some, who were imprisoned and tortured by authorities who professed a similar, anti-ethnocentric view, speaking through your words. As I said. My faith in these ideals are not weakened by your posts, they are only strengthened, as I see more and more the same people, shouting the same things towards me.

Quote: Your enemies; mighty tyrants, but weak willed and incompetent, their influence vast and pervasive but ineffectual.
The mighty tyrant are the same tyrants that you talk about here the whole time. Are you now telling me that these mighty tyrants are not tyrants at all? Or that your troops are nothing more than paid mercenaries who die in your pointless wars?
Your own people are incompetent, that you have said countless times in these forums. There is not a single inconsistency within my posts, and whatever you're shouting the whole time in the politics section of this forum.
You brought forward points, and I answered them. If you think there are untruths in what I've said, voice them. You're playing a comedia here, friend, and I laugh at your simpleton mind, with such simple views, you think of everyone to be as simple as you.


Quote:Delusion writ large and codified into a political movement
You cannot even reply to my posts one by one, to show me exactly where I am conflicting myself, or show whatever fallacy, or delusion you find in my posts. I think that you are not really a debater that I should be replying to. If I explain my views in a post in full, I expect to receive feedback in a similar way. You simply come in, tell me this and that in a short paragraph and leave. Now you will talk of your supposed victory over me. I have time, friend. I am explaining these to you for the Xth time now. You still haven't given me a reasonable answer that could turn my views around. And now, you will probably get into that I was heavily indocrinated by the state and my family. My views are very, very different from what the state, or my family holds.
Your replies are the same, simple replies, that hold no real value, but I simply keep writing to wipe that ignorance off of your mind.
but I guess this self-righteousness that you hold in your mind, labeling everything as the fascist, and your own as the saviors of humanity, leads me to believe that you are wrapped in a sack of illusions of your own.
I bear no illusions. I only bear truths, and that truth is, if we Turks wish to survive this harsh world, and thrive, we must stick together. But this too, is probably delusional to you. You hold the view, that we are irrelevant. If so, why really oppose our unification? Because it's "ethnocentric"? What else would you expect? A single world state? But that's what you maniacs dream about every day, isn't it. Humanity re-united. Yeah. I've already explained that none of your nonsense ever worked, and will ever work. Use the words nationalist and ethnocentrist as an insult as much as you will, I'd still take pride if you'd openly call me a racist, friend.

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Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 15, 2012 at 2:28 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Tobie - April 15, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 15, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Reforged - April 15, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Tobie - April 15, 2012 at 3:18 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 15, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Tobie - April 15, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 16, 2012 at 4:53 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Tobie - April 16, 2012 at 5:07 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by frankiej - April 16, 2012 at 6:50 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 16, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Tobie - April 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 17, 2012 at 12:54 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Tobie - April 17, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 17, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Tobie - April 17, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 17, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 17, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 17, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 17, 2012 at 7:17 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2012 at 9:38 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 18, 2012 at 10:00 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 18, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2012 at 10:56 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 18, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 18, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 18, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 18, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2012 at 6:20 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 18, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 18, 2012 at 7:06 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Anomalocaris - April 18, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 19, 2012 at 5:44 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Creed of Heresy - April 19, 2012 at 7:27 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 19, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 19, 2012 at 8:53 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 19, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Creed of Heresy - April 20, 2012 at 9:11 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 19, 2012 at 6:20 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Creed of Heresy - April 20, 2012 at 7:36 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 20, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by Creed of Heresy - April 21, 2012 at 7:12 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2012 at 11:17 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 22, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 22, 2012 at 9:05 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2012 at 11:53 am
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by kılıç_mehmet - April 22, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Nationalism and secularism - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm

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