(April 20, 2012 at 12:45 am)Rhythm Wrote: You can tell me exactly what a soup can is, hell, you can hit me in the head with one if I doubt it. I can read the label, I can check the contents.
You can only tell me what god -is said- to be. You could try to beat me over the head with one (and we see that often enough) but it isn't actually any god that's being swung like a club in that exchange. The labels are printed on top of each other, they all claim different ingredients. To top it off, I can't check the contents even if I wanted to.
A theist's point of view is only valuable to me if some truth value can be assigned to it. I can establish the truth value of the claims made on a can of soup anytime you'd like to put one to the test. Seems to me that a can of soup is at least as useful as a god in the area of purpose, as a nice little bonus, they contain soup. In short, a can of soup is everything that a god is not. It is real, it is tangible, it is beneficial to me, and it is accessible.
True. This is partly why I'm considering atheism. Nothing about God seems to be verifiable. He's apparently invisible, immaterial, untouchable, non temporal, and mute. How convenient! For a guy who supposedly loves the whole world, he sure has a funny way of expressing that love. He appears to express it the same way a monster in a closet expresses his hunger.
My ignore list
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
