RE: Pascal's Wager and the Selfishness of a "Good God"
April 20, 2012 at 10:55 am
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2012 at 11:08 am by sarah888.)
(April 20, 2012 at 10:39 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:(April 20, 2012 at 10:19 am)sarah888 Wrote: Biblical History is no Theory, you are showing your intelligence level now.
You should write up all the evidence for biblical history, get it published and stun the world.
Good luck with that endeavour.
Fact --- Jesus Life and death fulfilled ancient scriptures that all historians agree existed before His time; that almost all the apostles were martyred for their faith; that Christianity spread like wildfire despite horrendous persecution. Study the writings of the earliest Christians, who were defending Christianity in a pagan world that was largely hostile to their beliefs (sound familiar?).
Quote:Science never will explain or figure it out, as they cant explain any phenomenon
You know what phenomenon is that has been explained by Science? Oh wait.. thats what Scientific knowledge IS.
Explain, show me ONE phenomenon that has been discovered
by science that was theory.?
Quote:No miracles, medical, etc. will ever be explained.
NDE will never be explained, and why do they all see the after-life,
Listen to yourself. Assert assert assert. You think that throughout history has been full of people saying "you will never explain.. " "you'll never explain".. over and over again, they've been proven to be wrong.
[/b]Prove it, why cant NDE's, Medical miracles, etc. etc. etc be explained by your scientist. Again the I dont know theory applies.
The question is more sensibly, what makes you so arrogant to believe that your assertions are any more sensible than any other historical assertion of "you'll never explain..."
My assertions come from history and faith, they are not assertions, but beliefs and facts.
Quote:why doesnt anyone ever see the circus.
Maybe you should be asking, why do people see things only consistent with their own experiences.
For instances, christians seeing a white beardy Jesus. You must know that is a anachronism for the region.
Why would a Jew or musilum see the afterlife, why would anyone who goes through this experience see anything else but that specific occurance. ???WHY. I know .. YOU DONT KNOW.!
More to the point, when experiencing events which only draw on known experiences, why is hallucination during a period of great physical stress not more likely than NDE.
The fact is, you desperately WANT to believe in these things, you're not interested in reading the neuroscience, or .. hell.. any science.
[b]science does not speak regarding all of history,
only explains theory and hypothosis regardless of any
topic.
All science does, is try to explain the world. All you want to do is deny explanation to preserve a need for magic in your life.
yep. that is real nice.
(April 20, 2012 at 10:55 am)sarah888 Wrote:(April 20, 2012 at 10:39 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote:(April 20, 2012 at 10:19 am)sarah888 Wrote: Biblical History is no Theory, you are showing your intelligence level now.
You should write up all the evidence for biblical history, get it published and stun the world.
Good luck with that endeavour.
Fact --- Jesus Life and death fulfilled ancient scriptures that all historians agree existed before His time; that almost all the apostles were martyred for their faith; that Christianity spread like wildfire despite horrendous persecution. Study the writings of the earliest Christians, who were defending Christianity in a pagan world that was largely hostile to their beliefs (sound familiar?).
Quote:Science never will explain or figure it out, as they cant explain any phenomenon
You know what phenomenon is that has been explained by Science? Oh wait.. thats what Scientific knowledge IS.
Explain, show me ONE phenomenon that has been discovered
by science that was theory.?
Quote:No miracles, medical, etc. will ever be explained.
NDE will never be explained, and why do they all see the after-life,
Listen to yourself. Assert assert assert. You think that throughout history has been full of people saying "you will never explain.. " "you'll never explain".. over and over again, they've been proven to be wrong.
[/b]Prove it, why cant NDE's, Medical miracles, etc. etc. etc be explained by your scientist. Again the I dont know theory applies.
The question is more sensibly, what makes you so arrogant to believe that your assertions are any more sensible than any other historical assertion of "you'll never explain..."
My assertions come from history and faith, they are not assertions, but beliefs and facts.
Quote:why doesnt anyone ever see the circus.
Maybe you should be asking, why do people see things only consistent with their own experiences.
For instances, christians seeing a white beardy Jesus. You must know that is a anachronism for the region.
Why would a Jew or musilum see the afterlife, why would anyone who goes through this experience see anything else but that specific occurance. ???WHY. I know .. YOU DONT KNOW.!
More to the point, when experiencing events which only draw on known experiences, why is hallucination during a period of great physical stress not more likely than NDE.[b] Because when your hallucinating your brain is still alive when your experiencing NDE your brain is shut off at that point according to science your brain is dead. the person has no vital signs. Big Difference. Lets use your example when people hallucinate they all do not experience the same thing or dream. big difference..
The fact is, you desperately WANT to believe in these things, you're not interested in reading the neuroscience, or .. hell.. any science.
science does not speak regarding all of history,
only explains theory and hypothosis regardless of any
topic Science will never explain because they cannot, as they have no explanation, and that is
not good enough. .
All science does, is try to explain the world. All you want to do is deny explanation to preserve a need for magic in your life.
Science does not explain the world, they hypothosise, they have no facts on anything regarding creation, etc, etc, etc,
they have no explanation on phenomenon, etc etc etc. HISTORY is a Fact. Miracles are a FACT. NDE'S are a Fact,
which science fails to explain because they cant.
Sarah
