Quote:At what point does any of this make the case for ethical veganism (whew, now it's not just vegetarianism, it's veganism)? Oh, that's right.......never.
Hang on. The UN are saying that we need to shift towards a vegan diet. I'm trying to, nearly there. The ethical case is plain to see. If we don't it will negatively impact on the earth in many ways as I have explained. This coincides with my ethical stance on meat eating.
Quote:Have you noticed that you have a habit of quote mining from papers designed to support the arguments of others, but consistently fail to draw them in to service for your own?)
It is called providing supporting evidence. All you seem to do is say that ending meat production is not sustainable without proving anything to back it up. Provide some sources, back up your arguments.
Quote:-and yes, you should have seen this sooner, which is precisely why I am so frustrated with participating in this conversation at this point.
Hey, I'm frustrated too! At least you can console yourself with a bacon sandwich!
Quote:I have no "self-interest" in eating meat.
Then why eat it? So we can get fertilizer? This seems a little thin to me.