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Is purposeless torture moral?
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RE: Is purposeless torture moral?
Your opinion is allowed here. Allow me to give you mine for a moment ...

(April 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm)deciple Wrote: About weather hell is a literal or symbolic place the christian faith clearly desctibes it as a real physical place that is eternal seperation from God.

Agreed, and yet MANY Christians, including godschild claim that the Bible didn't REALLY mean a real place of eternal fire, and they adamantly stand by this. So which one of you is the True Christian? Cause you both claim the other is wrong. My only point here is that, you have no business telling the non-christians that they're going to spend an eternity in Hell when your own people can't even agree on it's purpose and design.

(April 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm)deciple Wrote: It is my personal belief that those that go to hell were given the lifetime needed to make their decision about where they would choose to go.

Do your personal beliefs take into account people who never heard the name of Christ? Because if you crunch the numbers, there is somewhere between 80 and 90 billion souls who have lived and died on this planet without Christianity and over half of those never even heard the name of Christ.

(April 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm)deciple Wrote: At the time of death whatever decision was made was the only decision that would have ever been made by that person. Even if given a million years on earth they would have still chosen to be apart from God.

Typical christian arrogance. There's absolutely no way that you can know that. Completely unprovable. Have you ever been alive for a million years? How do you know they wouldn't have changed their mind next year?? Especially considering that they might not have even been introduced to Christianity. Accident of birth is a bitch! Fuck those tribesmen in the Amazon right?

(April 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm)deciple Wrote: So God sends nobody to hell people choose to go there.

Click here to get my thoughts on this RIDICULOUS statement. The Bible is very clear on this. Your god casts people into hell. Nobody would ever torture themselves for even a day, let alone an eternity. This is apologists greasy rhetoric. Are you a True Christian or not? Because True Christians are honest and often tell the unrighteous that their god will INDEED cast them into the Hell.

(April 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm)deciple Wrote: The bible states that hell is seperation from god and also all good things come from god, so if god isnt there than nothing good is there either hence the flames and brimstone and whatnot. It even says that people in hell are still unrepentant so they still choose to be there as crazy as that sounds to me personally. So its not that is purposless torture as in trying to get information from sombody its just a destination that is arrived at by people with the perspective that heaven is hell.

Distasteful as your ideas are, they are very common around here. Just know that although your opinion is welcome here ... so is ours, and if you're going to make crazy assertions about your religion, we're going to need to see one of these:
[Image: True-Christian.png]

...otherwise the True Christians who dispute everything you say might sway me to thinking they're right and you're wrong.

on the other hand, I might think you're all just brainwashed. Undecided

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Messages In This Thread
Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 12, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by downbeatplumb - April 12, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by NoMoreFaith - April 12, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 13, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Nine - April 12, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 2:56 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Killman - April 12, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Faith No More - April 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Welsh cake - April 12, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Nine - April 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 12, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 13, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 13, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 13, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 12, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 14, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 18, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 19, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 19, 2012 at 2:10 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 2:14 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 19, 2012 at 2:20 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 2:44 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 2:49 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 3:00 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 22, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 22, 2012 at 9:30 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 12, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Drich - April 12, 2012 at 6:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 13, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 13, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Paul the Human - April 12, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Faith No More - April 12, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Drich - April 12, 2012 at 11:45 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 12, 2012 at 11:31 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Drich - April 12, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 13, 2012 at 12:20 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Faith No More - April 13, 2012 at 7:36 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 13, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 14, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 13, 2012 at 6:39 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Greatest I am - April 14, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 14, 2012 at 2:16 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by padraic - April 15, 2012 at 12:32 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 19, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Reforged - April 19, 2012 at 6:50 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 19, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Faith No More - April 19, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 19, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Welsh cake - April 19, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 19, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 19, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 19, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 20, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 20, 2012 at 2:52 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 20, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by TheJackel - April 21, 2012 at 12:49 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 21, 2012 at 10:16 am
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 22, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 22, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Ace Otana - April 22, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 22, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 22, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Cinjin - April 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Godschild - April 22, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RE: Is purposeless torture moral? - by Minimalist - April 22, 2012 at 9:57 pm

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