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The danger of religion. .
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RE: The danger of religion. .
(April 23, 2012 at 6:26 pm)deciple Wrote: Ah, you see, this is exactlly why I came here. You people have caused me to think about why I believe in what I believe. And as a bonus most of you do it respectfully.

Im not sure which famous dead guy said it but what he said was something to the effect of "if there be a God surely he would pefer honest questioning over blindfolded fear" and I share those sentiments.
There is a lot to reply to here and Ill try to cover all of it in this one post. To no more faith. That story is merely an illiustration of how its possible to overlook an act of god simply because it comes in the form of ordinary everyday people. if you can add to the story that he sticks his middle fingers up at everybody else, then i can scratch out your ending to the story and add my own. So he already saved all the other flood victims and that was the last guy on the roofBig Grin In my belief all good things come from God, this includes all cures for diseases and sickness. I know it may seem like a generic answer but we live in a broken world.. a world that we broke. we as in mankind. This is the reason for sickness, natural disasters nazi death camps terrorist attacks and the black plague. It would be nice to have a cure for HIV, muscular dystrophy and everything you listed. I happend to lose my brother to MD so yeah, it would have been nice to already have had the cure for it but as ive already said in my other post as well, this world and this life are not the end. The spirit of man is eternal. In the grand scheme of things the time we had on this earth will be nothing when compared to a billion years later.

to thor... actually yes i can prove that God heals man when man cannot heal himself. Go to pubmed.gov and there are many case studies of just that. Where medicine failed and for some "unexplainable" reason the person in question recovered.

Stimbo.. yes sometimes, especially studies where there have been two groups where one was prayed over to achieve a specific result it is barely indistinguishable from blind chance. Sometimes the one looking at it wants to be skeptical and nothing will suffice.
I will go ahead and say right now, no matter how much anybody prays, ozzy the dog will not ever turn into a naked chick. thats just not how it works. ozzy osbourne did dress up like a chick and piss on the alamo is that good enough?ROFLOL And as far as going up to a doctor and telling him the experiance he has gained as a result of years of training and dedication were for nothing.. of course I wouldnt do that. Im not a disrespectful person. He aquired his skills because of hard work and many many hours of study. Then why do i say its a gift from God then? Because larry the bum down on 5th street couldnt be a doctor if he tried. why not? because he isnt "gifted" in that way. larry the bum however, is here for a reason and has his own "gifts" Peace.

So, tell me, why won't god heal amputees?

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The danger of religion. . - by Poetess - April 20, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Minimalist - April 20, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Forsaken - April 20, 2012 at 6:12 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by frankiej - April 20, 2012 at 6:18 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Faith No More - April 20, 2012 at 6:39 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by NoMoreFaith - April 20, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Poetess - April 20, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Thor - April 20, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Disciple - April 22, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by genkaus - April 23, 2012 at 6:22 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by NoMoreFaith - April 23, 2012 at 6:35 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Thor - April 23, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Cyberman - April 23, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by KichigaiNeko - April 23, 2012 at 9:23 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by KichigaiNeko - April 23, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Thor - April 23, 2012 at 12:08 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Disciple - April 23, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by genkaus - April 23, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Disciple - April 23, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Poetess - April 23, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by genkaus - April 24, 2012 at 1:39 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Thor - April 24, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by NoMoreFaith - April 25, 2012 at 7:32 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Norfolk And Chance - April 23, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Cyberman - April 23, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by The Grand Nudger - April 23, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Cyberman - April 23, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Minimalist - April 23, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Minimalist - April 23, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Poetess - April 23, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Minimalist - April 24, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Disciple - April 24, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Cyberman - April 24, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Disciple - April 24, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Cyberman - April 24, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by genkaus - April 24, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Poetess - April 25, 2012 at 1:06 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Thor - April 25, 2012 at 9:39 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Minimalist - April 24, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by The Grand Nudger - April 24, 2012 at 10:42 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Minimalist - April 25, 2012 at 1:44 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 5:09 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Tobie - May 18, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Annik - May 18, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Hovik - May 18, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Annik - May 18, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Polaris - May 18, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Sciwoman - May 19, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Tobie - May 18, 2012 at 5:22 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Hovik - May 18, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Tobie - May 18, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Aiza - May 19, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Phil - May 20, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Aiza - May 20, 2012 at 12:09 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Polaris - May 20, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by kılıç_mehmet - May 20, 2012 at 12:22 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Aegrus - May 20, 2012 at 1:30 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Aiza - May 20, 2012 at 2:07 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Aegrus - May 20, 2012 at 4:27 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Aiza - May 20, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Phil - May 20, 2012 at 12:58 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by kılıç_mehmet - May 20, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Tempus - May 20, 2012 at 1:13 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by kılıç_mehmet - May 20, 2012 at 1:21 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Polaris - May 20, 2012 at 2:59 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Annik - May 20, 2012 at 3:11 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Polaris - May 20, 2012 at 3:30 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Annik - May 20, 2012 at 3:35 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Hovik - May 20, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Polaris - May 20, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Annik - May 20, 2012 at 3:46 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Hovik - May 20, 2012 at 3:46 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Polaris - May 22, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Hovik - June 8, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Zen Badger - June 9, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Thor - June 10, 2012 at 11:33 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Godschild - May 20, 2012 at 2:17 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by Aiza - May 20, 2012 at 5:22 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by kılıç_mehmet - May 20, 2012 at 5:47 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by satan helper - June 8, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: The danger of religion. . - by The Grand Nudger - June 9, 2012 at 6:36 pm



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