The danger of religion. .

[NoMoreFaith]

To no more faith. That story is merely an illiustration of how its possible to overlook an act of god simply because it comes in the form of ordinary everyday people. if you can add to the story that he sticks his middle fingers up at everybody else, then i can scratch out your ending to the story and add my own. So he already saved all the other flood victims and that was the last guy on the roof

We're not discussing a story however, what we are discussing is verifiable natural disasters and Gods indifference which this parable fails to address.

Let's break this parable down;
Praying to God for a miracle does not mean he will send his hand down and lift you to safety, but allow for you to help yourself out of the predicament.

Now, translate that to the real world; last sunday, 22 worshippers died during the Easter vigil mass when their church collapsed on them following a heavy rainstorm. The incident happened at an outpost of the Christ the King Church.

Do you think they prayed for God to save them as they were crushed under bricks and mortar? Was there some way they could have saved themselves but didn't interpret God's mercy correctly? As people tried to dig them out, and found only bodies.. what message do you think God sent to save them?

This parable happens to disgust me to be honest, I've heard it before and quite frankly it is despicable in its malevolence.
The actions of God are entirely consistent with the natural order of events. If people can be saved, we try, if they can't we can't.

God exempting himself from our standards of morality is the ultimate malevolence. His version of morality is entirely self-serving and without benevolence.

As a thought experiment, a really easy one. Someone you love has their leg tied to the train tracks at a junction and a train is coming down the line.
Next to you is a switch, you can pull at any time to divert the train away and ensure the safety of the one you love.
A man holding a knife is nearby and there is a reasonably likely chance he may be able to cut through the ropes before the train runs over your loved ones leg.

Do you; Ask the man with the knife to cut the ropes and hope he has enough time, or flick the switch and divert the train onto a safe track instead?

Morally, the answer is obvious, I would assume, that even a small risk of massive suffering in this instance would warrant you using your power to avert the crisis in its entirety.

So why is this the moral thing to do? Its because of the relationship of power. You have the power to avert suffering in an instant instead of allowing for the fallibility of man.

What would you think of a person who asked the man to try cutting the rope instead of the easy solution? Would you find their decision highly questionable? Or would you praise them for sending the man? Even if the loved one was saved by the knife man, would you praise the person at the button for sending the man to do the work? Or question why they didn't just change the tracks?

In my belief all good things come from God, this includes all cures for diseases and sickness.

So the inability to cure those diseases, which God knows how man can do it, is withheld until man comes across the answer.
Is man not ready to cure a disease? What makes them ready to prevent suffering, but they weren't ready thousands of years before.

In the same thought experiment, what would you say to the doctor who could have saved a loved one, but refused to impart his knowledge to the student doctor assigned to cure them to find out if the student doctor is ready for the knowledge?