(April 24, 2012 at 8:53 pm)deciple Wrote: genkaus, thor and poetess- I gave you examples and you refuse to see it.
Uh.... you gave examples of nothing. I asked for an example where a paralyzed person was prayed for and the person got up and walked. You did not respond to this challenge. How about an instance where prayers were offered to replace a missing limb or eye and the limb or eye grew back? You know... something verifiable. My bet is that you have nothing.
Quote:Im not saying that in every case it was divine intervention but how do you know for sure that in some of the cases it wasnt?
How do you know there isn't an invisible alien named Tim running around curing random people? I'm not saying Tim is responsible for every cure that takes place, but how do you know for sure that in some cases it wasn't him?
Quote:And why does the case have to be recent to be applicable?
It doesn't. As it has already been mentioned, it just has to be verifiable. But it does seem strange that your deity hasn't had anything to say in 2,000 years.
Quote: That is the problem with alot of the proof that god has given us in general with the non believer.
What proof? THERE IS NO PROOF!
Quote: You need something recent to keep it relevant.
See above comment.
Quote:For me, I can take what happened 2000 years ago and still believe it today.
I believe the truthfulness of lots of things that happened thousands of years ago. Because there is supporting evidence. Quite unlike the crappola in your Babble.
Quote:One thing that helps me personally is that whole whole lot of people died for their testimony. All they had to do was say that they were not christian and jesus was not the messiah and they would have been pardoned from their death sentence. People will live for a lie however, people will not die for a lie.
Yeah, I've heard this lame argument before. Like no one has ever died for a lie. If you believe this, you must believe the Koran is true. People die all the time defending that pile of religious horseshit. Quite simply, people will die for a lie if they believe it to be true. Ever hear of the Crusades?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?