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What A Bizarre Day!
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RE: What A Bizarre Day!
(April 28, 2012 at 4:05 am)FallentoReason Wrote:
teaearlgreyhot Wrote:And if you look at probably most of the strongest and loudest apologists for any religion, you'll probably find a number of them admit (such as W.L. Craig has) that it was never reason that got them to believe, but just some religious experience.

After we all left, the Christian told me his greatest evidence for God was the change in his life. But.. why does he attribute it to God and not Allah? Because of where he was born! I conveyed this to them through a little experiment.

I don't know if you read my post earlier where I did a little experiment with them regarding miracles. Basically, if all of us were to witness some sort of event classified as a miracle, then how would we know whose god it was that caused it? The only reason why they would attribute it to their respective god is because of their geographical and thus cultural backgrounds, and of course their biased view of their god as a cause of that. Neither the Christian nor the Muslims said it definitely would have been their god if such a thing happened in front of us. I think they realised that the other party would say it was their god because they were either brought up to believe in that god OR it's the predominant religion in their culture. So they must have realised this is true of them too. Of course neither admitted to it.

Yeah, that's an interesting argument. It's just the "where you grew up" part reminds me too much of a genetic fallacy. And Christians who know their stuff say that you can't automatically assume that a miracle comes from God since demons can perform miracles too.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 7:26 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by frankiej - April 27, 2012 at 7:36 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 12:31 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 1:12 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by jess_essential - April 27, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 27, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 2:03 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Cyberman - April 27, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Minimalist - April 27, 2012 at 10:50 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Cyberman - April 27, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Minimalist - April 28, 2012 at 12:13 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 28, 2012 at 1:41 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 28, 2012 at 3:07 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 28, 2012 at 3:21 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 28, 2012 at 3:27 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 28, 2012 at 3:45 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by FallentoReason - April 28, 2012 at 4:05 am
RE: What A Bizarre Day! - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - April 28, 2012 at 4:12 am



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