(April 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Your shit is smelling up this thread, abishalom. You willfully misread and misrepresent science at every turn, then suggest that science is only belief and that religious doctrine should be given equal space. This shit was old years ago-and I say that in absolute terms. Radiometric dating, potassium argon, rubidium-strontium, uranium-thorium, etc., have demonstrated on many levels the ability to accurately date material. Certainly there are provisos, but you have yet to suggest ANYTHING that controverts them by means of better accuracy or a more testable methodology. In other words, shut the fuck up already, because all you do is trot out apologetic "quandaries," which do not present quandaries to the part of the population that is truly attempting to find answers rather than avoid them.You cannot be serious. Naturalism is not science it's a worldview just like Christianity is a worldview (that did more for science than naturalism did). All I did was discuss actual facts. You can take it however you want to.
The accuracy of radiometric dating is often checked by comparing the radiometric date with non-radiometric dates of objects, such as historical accounts, tree rings, ice cores, etc. These results repeatedly demonstrate the validity of radiometric dating. Carbon-14 dating has been extensively tested against known historical items, such as King Tut's wooden coffin, with excellent results. See Lake Suigetsu Algae for another such example. While there are occasional false dates caused by contamination and leaching, overall, radiometric dating has been demonstrated to be very accurate. Critics make much use of these false dates. But just because radiometric dating doesn't work every time, this doesn't mean that it doesn't work. After all, just because Detroit produces a lemon once in awhile, that doesn't mean they can't make cars.
The accuracy of argon radioisotope dating has been verified by testing it against known volcanic eruptions showing that it is accurate.
Event Biblical events have been accurately dated using Carbon-14. A tunnel believed to be built by King Hezekiah and described in the Bible (Kings II 20:20; Chronicles II 32:3, 4), was dated using carbon-14 and uranium-thorium dating to show that it was built near the time of the Judean king (700 B.C.).
http://www.epicidiot.com/evo_cre/radiome...m#accuracy
When you lay aside the christian bullshit, which contaminates things far worse than any errors in radiometrics, we can begin to talk about your "misgivings."
As for "apologetic quandaries", all I did was point out the assumptions that are made in radiometric dating. Apparently you do not believe scientists make these assumptions, but I got all that information from Wikipedia.
Oh and of all those methods you mentioned essentially all of those isotopes are readily moved by either water or heat (some both), meaning that they can enter/exit surrounding rock through say a flood or even by saturation from the underground water table or a magma flow beneath the earth. These processes can easily affect the results.
As for their "accuracy" being verified, you are mistaking precision with accuracy (see by gun range example from post). Like I said getting the same results every time (if that's really what happens) does not equate to getting the right results no matter how many methods you invent.
BTW Please give me links to where a "mainstream" scientist (since those are the ones atheist seem to be infatuated with) actually dated a recent volcano with K-Ar dating method. You probably won't find one, because their too busy crying "you can't date it because it has excess argon from the lava" (yet we should trust them on the dating of unknown aged rocks). They do the same thing when lightening strikes a tree and causes rapid petrification.
