Where from here?

[fr0d0]

You realize Jews would take issue with you. Christians and Jews don't have the same views on the Old Testament God.

Exactly - the Jewish God IS NOT the Christian God - the Christian God was always Christ - that's why I made the distinction.

Ah no, considering I know what the TAG argument actually is. TAG argues for mind to exists the created the logical absolutes. That says absolutely nothing about the Christian God. JP tries to say it does, but he failed every single time to prove it.

Wikipedia (may it be worshipped in it's holiness) disagrees with you, like JP did
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcenden...nce_of_God

Either way, Dotard's post specifically says he's conceding the hypthetical "something" not the hypethetical "Christian something". He's trying to get JP to prove this something has the Christian properties of god.

Is he? That's why I'm pointing out that we already know this is the Christian God

What I think Dotard is wanting is the next step. Labotomy. Or something.

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The Old Testament God isn't Christian until the New Testament is figured in.. THEN he becomes the Christian God, and you work backwards. (Roll up one trouser leg and touch your bared right nipple for the full effect

Well that's just bizarre! You're saying that God himself became Christian about 2000 years ago which effected a huge personality change? What did he do, accept Christ and suddenly see the error of his ways? Is he a born again God?

Talk about doing intellectual and literary contortions to desperately make what is a jumbled collection of myths and stories seem like a coherent narrative.

And what about this God then? Isn't he supposed to be pure, actus purus? If so, how can he possibly have such a complex and volatile personality?

I see you need a trip up this mountain too Dar.

God did not 'become' a Christian. God's nature was revealed to include Christ. That changed the understanding, retrospectively, of the whole thing. Suddenly it all makes perfect sense, and fulfills JP's philosophy of pure actuality with the perfect motives explained through the life of Christ.

I'll take a round pebble.

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If JP started with the xtain god and then threw all that first cause stuff out there to support it I'm sorry, I must have missed that.

I could have sworn I read JP say somewhere his arguments did not presuppose a christian god.

I'll wait until JP either confirms or rebutts this claim of Frodo's that the presupposition of the xtain god is required.

I asked JP personally last night and he confirmed this. (no it wasn't a 'dream' or 'vision' playmates)
Plus there's the slight clue in post number one of his thread: "I will try and answer any questions you may have on God and Christianity from an orthodox Christian perspective".