(May 3, 2012 at 7:17 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Now to respond to your post: We've heard this copout before ... your god doesn't have to play by the rules that he set up for mankind. It's bullshit. Furthermore, being humans we have every right to apply human standards to our own plight. Judging finite mortals infinitely is not just nor does the punishment fit the crime. [...]
Nope. Justice is justice is justice and you don't get the right to re-define the word when it suits your needs. It's such a tired argument. As if your god can commit genocide on a whim and simply call it just because he's all-powerful. Oh wait ... he did just that didn't he. [...]
Nice contradicting. On one hand, you're telling me that Satan is trying to take as many souls with him to hell as possible in order to hurt god. And yet, your god doesn't seem to give a shit since he's not even willing to "reveal himself" to save me. Seems like a pretty simple thing to do to save someone you supposedly love. And by the way god is not consistent. he is constantly changing his mind and according to you and most of the christians on this site, most humans DON'T have hope. Ask your brothers in Christ ... the majority of humans burn in hell and the uber-elite go to Heaven.
I am just going to address the 4 bolded statements:
#1. If you heard it before and rejected it, then be forewarned. The message is not going to change just because you think it is redundant or you do not like it. The truth doesn't change.
#2. No you don't because the human idea is flawed filled with error and far from the truth.
#3. See #2. Human justice is influenced by too many factors and is very subjective. Case in point the human idea of justice in a case involving child molestation is far different than a case involving the murder of an adult.
If you want justice then you have to go by God's definition not your own.
#4. God has revealed Himself you just do not accept it. You have the Bible, the universe, the world around you, you have christians, missionaries etc. you just want to be the ruler of God and demand that HE humble Imself to meet your demands.
It doesn't work that way. You have to humble YOURSELF to God and follow HIS rules to be saved.