RE: Uni Health Care
August 25, 2009 at 7:45 pm
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2009 at 7:47 pm by dry land fish.)
(August 24, 2009 at 5:52 pm)Dotard Wrote: What maybe not a lot of money to you can and probably is a fortune to another.
A man goes to work doing what he loves. It doesn't pay a fortune, but it's enough to keep a roof over his head, the family fed, the car running and even get some medical insurance out of the deal.
Through no fault of his own he finds himself out of a job. By your logic he goes from hard-working tax paying American to lazy good for nothing puke who's kids can just up and die for all you care?
Maybe by your reckoning he shouldn't have been buying shit he didn't need when he was employed huh? Like a car (there's buses) that roof patch (put a bucket under it) or that 29in. picture-tube type color T.V. with the fancy rabbit ears (12in b/w with tinfoil will do). Those kids didn't NEED new shoes, they could have gone to the goodwill and got used ones (or ran bare-footed). Yup their fault for buying all those things they didn't need.
Also I don't believe you addressed my concern (forgive if you did and I missed it) that I don't want my tax dollars paying for their fukin' kids education. You want NO healthcare for those who cannot pay for it themselves (no tax cost to you) yet support tax costs to fund other lazy good for nothing pukes vaginal factory kids educations? What is the differance? Before you say overall societal benefit comes from public supported education I must ask, do you honestly believe there is no overall societal benefit to be had from a publicly supported healthy population?
Did you, DLF, go to a private school growing up or did you go thru a tax supported public education system?
What you pay for COBRA goes by what it cost you to have that same insurance plan with your employer. You pay what you were paying before and sometimes a little more. I answered your question. People who just find themselves out of a job get unemployment insurance and depending on how long they worked and how much they made depends on how long they can be on it. Sometimes people can even live off of their unemployment check enough to pay bills and buy food until they find another job. Unemployment is great because it's not a handout. The employer pays unemployment insurance by law so that if their employees are laid off or fired they have something to fall back on.
I NEVER said I didn't want my money to pay for education. I want people to be educated because education = a good job and people who have a good career are usually able to afford a private health care plan and are able to help support the economy. There is no societal benefit from giving people something as expensive as a health insurance plan for free. Health care costs too much for the American taxpayers to provide for everyone. We are in a recession...we have an extreme amount of people not paying taxes. We can not afford to do this! Back when our economy was up and everyone had a job and was making money then maybe something like this could have worked. Then again most of what we Americans thought was prosperity was just really cloaked by people living above their means and putting it on their credit cards. When people realized that they had a hundred thousand dollars of credit card debt...then the economy started failing. Once you default on a car loan and three or four credit cards you can't get any more credit. When the American people stopped being able to get a credit card then they stopped buying things...then people lost jobs....and you see where we are today. We don't have the economy we once had and we can't start a program that costs billions at a time like this. It would be great to just give health care to any and everyone...it's not possible right now. If we want the American economy to just commit suicide then by all means go right ahead and line everyone up for free healthcare and free cancer care and lets see how long it takes us to go completely broke.
I went to a publicly funded county high school. The only private school close to my home had a huge African American population and always had problems with white on black crime and black on white crime. Still today there are a lot of reports of white girls getting sexually harassed by the black students and when a white student doesn't want to date a Black male then they try to call them a racist and someone usually physically assaults them. My parents wouldn't have sent me to a school that had that much animosity amongst their students. It is not a good learning environment. Otherwise...I'd have probably went there because the classes were smaller which means more personal attention.