atheists and "conspiracy" theories

[Mister Agenda]

I don't know for sure if the 9/11 attacks were staged by the American government itself, but in my opinion, I think that there's a higher probability that that is the case.

Rayaan, even when I don't agree with you, I have to acknowledge your class and the reservation you show when making claims.

Just by calling it a "conspiracy" or those who believe in it "9/11 truthers" doesn't make the arguments less valid.

I think a claim of conspiracy in itself can constitute a valid critique of a theory if what is being claimed is a 'big C' Conspiracy, the kind that requires hundreds of people to keep a truly huge secret, like having captured an alien spacecraft.

My contention is not that the towers couldn't have burned and collapse to the floor after getting hit by the planes, but there are lots of coincidences behind the event which occurred before and after the event, that indicate that the whole thing was more likely to be organized by the CIA and other secret networks instead of some terrorists. They did it so cleverly that most people wouldn't suspect them for doing such a thing. And I think they are very good at that.

I don't think they're really good at it. The year I was assigned to America's most secret agency (not the CIA), a book came out telling all about it. I can neither confirm nor deny how accurate that book was, or tell you the name, but I recommend it. More sophisticated spy agencies, like MI6 and Mossad, regard the CIA as bumblers, and in comparison I have to agree.

I think that the 9/11 was created by the government so that it could use that as a reason to go war with Afghanistan and Iraq and get more oil, resources, or simply to achieve whatever their objectives were at the time.

If that's the case, shouldn't they have made the hijackers Afghanis and Iraqis?

If you look at history, there are many examples of false-flag terror attacks which prove that the government of a country has secretly caused harm to their own people and then they falsely blamed it on another country, so that they can justify invasion of that country.

This is true. In the past, governments have demonstrated that they are willing to carry out false flag attacks, and that they are not very good at covering it up when this has been done. That's why we know about them.

To me, all of this proves how good the government is at keeping secrets. People at that time didn't even believe that those events were perpetrated by their own government.

It always comes out. Little secrets are forgotten more than successfully covered up, big ones are like bombs with lit fuses, waiting to go off.

Then again, I know that it's possible that I'm deceived myself just by being a Muslim (which is what you're probably thinking right now).
Well, I just wanted to put my thoughts on this topic since you guys were talking about this. Tell me what you think.

That standard of humility in reasoning is something to which I aspire.