RE: Uni Health Care
August 26, 2009 at 3:01 pm
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2009 at 3:28 pm by dry land fish.)
(August 26, 2009 at 2:52 pm)Eilonnwy Wrote:(August 26, 2009 at 2:35 pm)dry land fish Wrote: To Elion:
It's not ok for anyone to pay for anyone elses health insurance if they don't want to. Charity is done out of someones free will. They can choose to help someone or choose not to. It's not forcing them to pay. The government takeover of the health care industry would FORCE Americans to pay for everyones health insurance. That is not constitutional. You don't force anyone to pay any money they don't want to pay for anything. I never said what was covered and what wasn't. To me the price I pay isn't pricey. If someone can't afford that price then they can pay for what they can afford. The whole idea is to have options and to be able to pick your own coverage and what you want. If you have money to pay for something more then great. If not...then ok. I am still going to hold fast to the idea that if someone wants anything in life to be easy they had better find a good job and not expect to flip burgers for a living and live like people who make three and four times as much as they do. If you want the perks of good health care...then work for it.
Okay, we've established that you don't care about anyone but yourself. Even still, your logic is flawed. Also you're classifying this as the government takeover of healthcare, and it's not. Private companies will still exist and since the public option will produce competition with the insurance company, it will bring your price down, make them accountable for the horrible practices they engaging in right now. It's not just about making sure everyone has health insurance, but to making sure whether your insurance doesn't just drop you for getting sick. It's not just about providing a public option, but reformed these horrible malpractices that happen should you actually get sick or injured.
The fact, though, that you think life is as simple as "get a job and work for it" means you have no idea how this world works. Some people have it bad through no fault of their own. Some people have opportunities that others don't. Telling them to just work hard for it is not the fix-all solution. And you're statement that if people want things to be easy they need to work hard? That's an oxymoron.
They will still take taxes to fund this. I mean if they are going to allow private companies to still exist then those that want to participate in a private health insurance plan should not have their taxes taken to pay for the government health care. If that's the case then someone is payin twice for health insurance. They are paying taxes to pay for everyone else...and then they are paying for their own insurance. How is that fair? Life is as simple as "get a job and work for it". I don't mean to go out and get a back breaking job and dig ditches for a living. Working hard doesn't mean that you'll get anything. Most of the "hard" jobs don't pay squat. I'm saying if you want anything then make good choices. Talk to a financial advisor and get a plan for your future. Save money for a rainy day. Invest in stocks. When I was eighteen years old my mom made me visit a financial advisor and at sixteen I was made to take my money and put it on CD's that drew interest at my bank. People make irresponsible choices and that has a lot to do with whether or not they can afford to be healthy. How many people make their kids get a financial advisor? How many even show them how to keep up with a checkbook? People are irresponsible and that's most of the problem!!!!
You know our government gives inmates in prison a check? Yet people still have not gotten money from FEMA for a tornado that tore through my town in 2005. These same nit wits will be supposedly helping to control health care too. I don't want anyone who decides inmates deserve free money controlling health care.