(August 26, 2009 at 3:01 pm)dry land fish Wrote: They will still take taxes to fund this. I mean if they are going to allow private companies to still exist then those that want to participate in a private health insurance plan should not have their taxes taken to pay for the government health care. If that's the case then someone is payin twice for health insurance. They are paying taxes to pay for everyone else...and then they are paying for their own insurance. How is that fair? Life is as simple as "get a job and work for it". I don't mean to go out and get a back breaking job and dig ditches for a living. Working hard doesn't mean that you'll get anything. Most of the "hard" jobs don't pay squat. I'm saying if you want anything then make good choices. Talk to a financial advisor and get a plan for your future. Save money for a rainy day. Invest in stocks. When I was eighteen years old my mom made me visit a financial advisor and at sixteen I was made to take my money and put it on CD's that drew interest at my bank. People make irresponsible choices and that has a lot to do with whether or not they can afford to be healthy. How many people make their kids get a financial advisor? How many even show them how to keep up with a checkbook? People are irresponsible and that's most of the problem!!!!
You know our government gives inmates in prison a check? Yet people still have not gotten money from FEMA for a tornado that tore through my town in 2005. These same nit wits will be supposedly helping to pay for health care too. I don't want anyone who decides inmates deserve free money controlling health care.
If you send someone to private school your taxes still pay for the public schools. *gasp* you pay for school twice. Would you argue we shouldn't have public schools? You already think people who are poor through no fault of their own shouldn't have some standard of health insurance, why should we educate them either? Hey, why don't we kill we them off anyway, they're just a burden on society anyway.
It must be nice to explain away society's ills as someone else's problem, someone else's irresponsible choice. You're not going to help the impoverished by saying "Hey! Get a job!" If people are struggling just to eat and stay healthy, it can be near impossible to get a job. I would never advocate that that we need to give the poor everything, but if we provide proper education, proper programs that not only assist them but put them on programs that encourage helping themselves and gives them the tools to help themselves, THEN you can have a poor person pick themselves up and take advantage of opportunities. You fail to realize it's attitudes like yours that perpetuate the lower class. The world's problems are not as simple as "get a job." There are serious impediments that the lower class has to overcome, the least of which is "get a job." If we can give poor people some health care, because the public option is not going to be the best thing ever, but at least something to cover doctor's visits and practice preventive care, it can go a long way to helping people get and keep a job. Lower class citizens have to go to work sick because they'll get fired if they stay home. This is an extremely complicated issue. It's clear that you just. don't. get. it. How are people supposed to help themselves if they can't get a good education, if they don't have access to certain information, or opportunities that the upper class has? They cannot make smart choices with their money and life if they don't have people educating them and helping them go in the right direction!
Seriously, do you think about what you say before you speak, because you're arguments are contradictory. You don't want inmates to get checks, or poor people to have some standard of healthcare, but damnit, where's your help for Tornado damage? It's hypocritical. If you want the government to help you, you have to realize they're going to help other people to.
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