RE: Redeeming the American Way
August 27, 2009 at 9:04 am
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2009 at 9:09 am by LukeMC.)
I'm on the fence with this one.
There once was a time where theists would make claims and us atheists would say "hey, i've done the research and this is why you're wrong". Now that the topic has turned "controversial" the tone has changed to "you're wrong by default, now show me why you're right". Perhaps I'm completely misjudging or haven't kept a close enough eye on all of the threads in question, but that's how it has seemed.
When theists make scientific claims and we aren't sure whether they're true or not (we assume they're false of course), a lot of us (or at least me?) would go out of our way to find contradictory evidence so that they stfu spouting nonsense. If you think Pippy is wrong, the least you can do is present him/her with the evidence showing that everything s/he said is wrong instead of taking the lazy position of "I see no evidence, I hear no evidence".
On the other hand, Pippy could just provide a reading list and hopefully everybody will be happy.
Or Eilonnwy could provide me a link to a thread where somebody presented some research from the non-conspirital side of the "debate" and I'll go find a boot to eat.
Edit: if you hang on for a few minutes I'm gonna put together a little portfolio
eilonnwy Wrote:You miss the point completely. I shouldn't have to google and prove what you say to be true. If you want to convince me, YOU have to put in the effort, I'm not doing that stuff for you. So if you're going to complain about having to back up your claims, then not even bother to provide the links for your sources for me to actually look at them and judge for myself
There once was a time where theists would make claims and us atheists would say "hey, i've done the research and this is why you're wrong". Now that the topic has turned "controversial" the tone has changed to "you're wrong by default, now show me why you're right". Perhaps I'm completely misjudging or haven't kept a close enough eye on all of the threads in question, but that's how it has seemed.
When theists make scientific claims and we aren't sure whether they're true or not (we assume they're false of course), a lot of us (or at least me?) would go out of our way to find contradictory evidence so that they stfu spouting nonsense. If you think Pippy is wrong, the least you can do is present him/her with the evidence showing that everything s/he said is wrong instead of taking the lazy position of "I see no evidence, I hear no evidence".
On the other hand, Pippy could just provide a reading list and hopefully everybody will be happy.
Or Eilonnwy could provide me a link to a thread where somebody presented some research from the non-conspirital side of the "debate" and I'll go find a boot to eat.
Edit: if you hang on for a few minutes I'm gonna put together a little portfolio
