RE: Redeeming the American Way
August 27, 2009 at 10:24 am
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2009 at 4:10 pm by LukeMC.)
Bilderberg group: The Bilderberg Group, Bilderberg conference, or Bilderberg Club is an unofficial, annual, invitation-only conference of around 130 guests, most of whom are persons of influence in the fields of politics, business, and banking.
"Because of its secrecy and refusal to issue news releases, the group is frequently accused of secretive and nefarious world plots."
Bilderberg founding member and, for 30 years, a steering committee member, Denis Healey has said:
"To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."
And also "Bilderberg is a way of bringing together politicians, industrialists, financiers and journalists. Politics should involve people who aren't politicians. We make a point of getting along younger politicians who are obviously rising, to bring them together with financiers and industrialists who offer them wise words. It increases the chance of having a sensible global policy."
One more from the article:
The Bilderberg's mission seems innocent enough.
Okay, that's the Bilderberg group sorted out. Just a bunch of influential people having private meetings where they discuss world affairs.
Next, the council on foreign relations.
From the website, http://www.cfr.org/about/
Council On Foreign Relations (CFR):The Council on Foreign Relations is an independent, nonpartisan membership organization, think tank, and publisher dedicated to being a resource for its members, government officials, business executives, journalists, educators and students, civic and religious leaders, and other interested citizens in order to help them better understand the world and the foreign policy choices facing the United States and other countries.
The CFR is a group of intelligent individuals studying and reporting on foreign affairs and global issues. They are as conspiratal as barny the dinosaur.
Finally, the Trilateral Commission.
Trilateral Commision: A non-governmental, policy-oriented discussion group of about 350 distinguished citizens from Western Europe, North America and Pacific Asia formed to encourage mutual understanding and closer cooperation among these three regions on common problems.
Now for some fun quotations from the website's FAQ page
The Trilateral Commission are an open organisation (in the sense of being non-secretive) with peaceful aims.
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Now, I've done a google search on Obama's cabinet ("Obama's cabinet bilderberg" in google) :
It's difficult to find anything objective on the subject. So instead, I searched "Bilderberg Members" in wikipedia and in a separate tab I searched "Obama's Cabinet". Cross-referencing, here's what I've found:
Timothy Geithner (treasury secretary) and Kathleen Sebelius (secretary of health and human services) are the only members of the Bilberberg group from Obama's cabinet. 2 out of 15 altogether.
Next, I did the same cross-referencing with the CFR . Here's what I found:
*tumbleweed*
And finally, for the Trilateral Commision:
*tumbleweed* Though, there is a former member who is "chairman of President Obama's Economic Recovery Advisory Board", and Susan Rice, "U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations".
In summary, these three groups are a peace-oriented set of highly educated and well informed members, each of which work either in positions of power or jobs which put them in good stead for making judgements on foreign relations. Only 2 members of Obama's cabinet have affiliations with these groups, and yet this does nothing to imply a conspiracy and to be honest one would hope for them to be involved with such highly knowledgable organisations, as it would provide them with reliable knowledge upon which they base their economic and social decisions.
Now, either my research is wrong or this coffin has a huge nail plastered into it.
thanks.
I told you I haven't followed it all. But Pippy isn't talking about 9/11 here or in the Ridge thread. S/he is talking about Obama's cabinet being members of secret societies and suchlike. And as for burden of proof, I am well aware of the situation, but this is a situation in which we can at least imply the negative by showing the unbiased facts and letting Pippy decide for him/herself whether or not to accept the cold, hard truth.
"Because of its secrecy and refusal to issue news releases, the group is frequently accused of secretive and nefarious world plots."
Bilderberg founding member and, for 30 years, a steering committee member, Denis Healey has said:
"To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."
And also "Bilderberg is a way of bringing together politicians, industrialists, financiers and journalists. Politics should involve people who aren't politicians. We make a point of getting along younger politicians who are obviously rising, to bring them together with financiers and industrialists who offer them wise words. It increases the chance of having a sensible global policy."
One more from the article:
exchange Wrote:"But I will tell you this. If extremists and leaders of militant groups believe that Bilderberg is out to do them down, then they're right. We are. We are against Islamic fundamentalism, for instance, because it's against democracy."
"Isn't Bilderberg's secrecy against democracy, too?" I asked.
"We aren't secret," he snapped. "We're private. Nobody is going to speak freely if they're going to be quoted by ambitious and prurient journalists like you who think it'll help your career to attack something that you have no knowledge of.
The Bilderberg's mission seems innocent enough.
Business Wire Wrote:The 56th Bilderberg Meeting will be held in Chantilly, Virginia, USA 5 – 8 June 2008. The Conference will deal mainly with a nuclear free world, cyber terrorism, Africa, Russia, finance, protectionism, US-EU relations, Afghanistan and Pakistan, Islam and Iran.(link)
Okay, that's the Bilderberg group sorted out. Just a bunch of influential people having private meetings where they discuss world affairs.
Next, the council on foreign relations.
From the website, http://www.cfr.org/about/
Council On Foreign Relations (CFR):The Council on Foreign Relations is an independent, nonpartisan membership organization, think tank, and publisher dedicated to being a resource for its members, government officials, business executives, journalists, educators and students, civic and religious leaders, and other interested citizens in order to help them better understand the world and the foreign policy choices facing the United States and other countries.
Richard N. Haas, President of CFR Wrote:Welcome to http://www.cfr.org, the website of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). It is designed to be an online resource for everyone in these turbulent times who wants to learn more about the complex international issues challenging policymakers and citizens alike.
[...]
CFR members debate major foreign-policy issues; by operating a think tank that is home to the world’s most prominent scholars of international affairs
The CFR is a group of intelligent individuals studying and reporting on foreign affairs and global issues. They are as conspiratal as barny the dinosaur.
Finally, the Trilateral Commission.
Trilateral Commision: A non-governmental, policy-oriented discussion group of about 350 distinguished citizens from Western Europe, North America and Pacific Asia formed to encourage mutual understanding and closer cooperation among these three regions on common problems.
Now for some fun quotations from the website's FAQ page
Trilateral Commission Wrote:
- What is the main activity of the Trilateral Commission?
There are two main aspects of Commission activity. First are plenary meetings of the Commission. These are three-day conferences which now take place once a year, rotating from region to region. A published report on each plenary is available, covering key aspects of the meeting.
- Is the Trilateral Commission trying to establish a world government?
No. The Trilateral Commission encourages international cooperation on many issues, but does not promote a world government. No Commission report proposes that national governments be dissolved and a world government be created. Individuals or organizations who believe the Trilateral Commission supports or intends to form a world government are misinformed.
The Trilateral Commission are an open organisation (in the sense of being non-secretive) with peaceful aims.
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Now, I've done a google search on Obama's cabinet ("Obama's cabinet bilderberg" in google) :
It's difficult to find anything objective on the subject. So instead, I searched "Bilderberg Members" in wikipedia and in a separate tab I searched "Obama's Cabinet". Cross-referencing, here's what I've found:
Timothy Geithner (treasury secretary) and Kathleen Sebelius (secretary of health and human services) are the only members of the Bilberberg group from Obama's cabinet. 2 out of 15 altogether.
Next, I did the same cross-referencing with the CFR . Here's what I found:
*tumbleweed*
And finally, for the Trilateral Commision:
*tumbleweed* Though, there is a former member who is "chairman of President Obama's Economic Recovery Advisory Board", and Susan Rice, "U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations".
In summary, these three groups are a peace-oriented set of highly educated and well informed members, each of which work either in positions of power or jobs which put them in good stead for making judgements on foreign relations. Only 2 members of Obama's cabinet have affiliations with these groups, and yet this does nothing to imply a conspiracy and to be honest one would hope for them to be involved with such highly knowledgable organisations, as it would provide them with reliable knowledge upon which they base their economic and social decisions.
Now, either my research is wrong or this coffin has a huge nail plastered into it.
thanks.
(August 27, 2009 at 9:28 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: We already had a 9/11 thread where a lot of references were provided that debunked the 9/11 conspiracy theories. What the hell are you on about?
I told you I haven't followed it all. But Pippy isn't talking about 9/11 here or in the Ridge thread. S/he is talking about Obama's cabinet being members of secret societies and suchlike. And as for burden of proof, I am well aware of the situation, but this is a situation in which we can at least imply the negative by showing the unbiased facts and letting Pippy decide for him/herself whether or not to accept the cold, hard truth.
