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(May 14, 2012 at 5:19 am)Aiza Wrote:
(May 13, 2012 at 9:35 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Howdy Aiza.

What’s your take on the Vatican’s bitch slapping of the LCWR?

Well first of all, I think "bitch slap" is a poor choice of words! Tut Tut

I have mixed feelings and I could write a lot on the subject. I know some sisters who are from orders represented by the LCWR and they were a large inspiration for me when I converted and also when discerning to be a sister. I am visiting one of their convents this weekend actually (very excited!!). They have dedicated themselves to God, the same as any other sister, and they represent a lot of amazing, strong and intensely charitable women. I even thought about joining one of their orders, and still sort of am drawn to it in a way.

But I'd be lying if I said that the organization is always 100% devout. I could PM you if you want some concrete examples, but I am not even sure if you could appreciate the differences. Here is an example of a religious order of Benedictine sisters who are represented by the LCWR and here is an example of an order of Benedictines who are represented by the CMSWR, a more traditional parallel organization to the LCWR which was established in the early 90s as a response to so many orders in the LCWR removing their habits, no longer living in community, no longer praying the liturgy of the hours, etc. You may not be able to tell the difference, but the fastest growing orders are in the CMSWR, and the new members are younger as well. It isn't necessarily about the clothes or getting to wear a habit (though such a thing is so lovely and definitely something I desire in my future community!), but it's the level of devotion. Where is Our Lord and the Eucharist? Where is Our Lady and the Saints? It feels cold and generic and sad to me.

I could talk a lot about my experiences at different LCWR convents and I think I already talked a bit on af.com. But I won't bore you more than I already have. Undecided

Its not like its being forcibly disbanded--its just being changed and I can only hope they come out stronger for it. I know that liturgy of the hours and the Eucharist for example, are supposed to now have a priority at LCWR events and I am so excited about that!
Considering the LCWR’s public reaction to what the Vatican had to say I think many of them feel like they were bitch slapped even though they may have phrased it a bit differently.

It's your mixed feelings that interest me. In the past I’ve seen you talk about the good the church does. They do things like feed the poor and help the sick. These are the very things the Vatican has told the LCWR they were expending too many resources on. They were told they needed to focus more on spreading the church’s message of bigotry and discrimination (my words not theirs) and less on feeding the poor. How does it make you feel knowing that the church thinks it is more important for the sisters to expend resources teaching children to discriminate against homosexuals instead of feeding hungry ones? 
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Hello - by Aiza - May 10, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: Hello - by Welsh cake - May 10, 2012 at 2:34 am
RE: Hello - by Jackalope - May 10, 2012 at 2:38 am
RE: Hello - by Kayenneh - May 10, 2012 at 3:47 am
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 10, 2012 at 4:47 am
RE: Hello - by Jackalope - May 10, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Hello - by Phil - May 10, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Hello - by Kayenneh - May 10, 2012 at 5:08 am
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 10, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Hello - by fuckass365 - May 10, 2012 at 8:04 am
RE: Hello - by Faith No More - May 10, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Hello - by ElDinero - May 10, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 10, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Hello - by ElDinero - May 10, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Hello - by Minimalist - May 10, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 10, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: Hello - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2012 at 8:07 pm
RE: Hello - by ElDinero - May 11, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 10, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Hello - by Norfolk And Chance - May 11, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: Hello - by Napoléon - May 11, 2012 at 11:56 am
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 11, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Hello - by Ace Otana - May 12, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 13, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: Hello - by Phil - May 13, 2012 at 3:48 am
RE: Hello - by Ace Otana - May 13, 2012 at 4:57 am
RE: Hello - by Norfolk And Chance - May 13, 2012 at 7:06 pm
RE: Hello - by Minimalist - May 13, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: Hello - by popeyespappy - May 13, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 14, 2012 at 5:19 am
RE: Hello - by NoMoreFaith - May 14, 2012 at 5:45 am
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 14, 2012 at 6:13 am
RE: Hello - by NoMoreFaith - May 14, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 14, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RE: Hello - by NoMoreFaith - May 15, 2012 at 10:47 am
RE: Hello - by Ace Otana - May 14, 2012 at 7:25 am
RE: Hello - by popeyespappy - May 14, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Hello - by ElDinero - May 11, 2012 at 8:21 pm
RE: Hello - by Aiza - May 12, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Hello - by Annik - May 11, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: Hello - by Norfolk And Chance - May 12, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Hello - by NoMoreFaith - May 12, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Hello - by Cyberman - May 13, 2012 at 7:47 am
RE: Hello - by Phil - May 13, 2012 at 8:35 am
RE: Hello - by Cyberman - May 13, 2012 at 11:57 am
Re: Hello - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2012 at 7:45 pm
RE: Hello - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2012 at 5:54 am
RE: Hello - by fuckass365 - May 14, 2012 at 6:44 am
RE: Hello - by KichigaiNeko - May 14, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Hello - by Phil - May 14, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Hello - by Reforged - May 14, 2012 at 8:43 am

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